First one looks like a small manual winder with s re-dial, 30-32mm? From the hand set I'd guess 1930's. Can't say much more than that without inside case back and movement pictures.
Second one looks like a small, 32-33mm, late 60's or early 70's manual winder with a worn dial. Possibly a 6xx series movement. Same story, can't say much more without pictures of the internals.
Don't take early retirement quite yet
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