Help with Constellation 14393 61 SC

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Is the case pink gold or yellow gold?

May I see a picture of the movement and the inside / outside of the case back?
 
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Is the case pink gold or yellow gold?

May I see a picture of the movement and the inside / outside of the case back?

I think the case is yellow, rather than pink.
But for the greater knowledge base, I'd like the details of the watch too.
 
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Is the case pink gold or yellow gold?

May I see a picture of the movement and the inside / outside of the case back?
The case is yellow gold, thats why i wanna swap this rose gold bracelet that's on it right now for a brown leather strap.

These were the photos from the sale, the movement was serviced and cleaned so it looks better overall now. You can partially see the original yellow gold bracelet that needed repair by the end links (loose beads) and it was too small on me. The movement is believe is a Caliber 561
 
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The case is yellow gold, thats why i wanna swap this rose gold bracelet that's on it right now for a brown leather strap.

These were the photos from the sale, the movement was serviced and cleaned so it looks better overall now. You can partially see the original yellow gold bracelet that needed repair by the end links (loose beads) and it was too small on me. The movement is believe is a Caliber 561
Maybe 551? I can't recall, the guys who serviced my watch used a caseback removal tool and tightened it to the point where the Bergeon case back ball i have won't twist it open as it's too tight to check
 
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The chronometer movt with a date for that era would be a 561.
Being a 168.005 dogleg with an arrowhead dial is even less common.
Unfortunately the key piece of data missing is the movt serial number.
Do you have it in another image or written down somewhere from when the back was off?
 
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The chronometer movt with a date for that era would be a 561.
Being a 168.005 dogleg with an arrowhead dial is even less common.
Unfortunately the key piece of data missing is the movt serial number.
Do you have it in another image or written down somewhere from when the back was off?
I do not, I just tried looking. But I know someone locally who could help me out w this and won't charge me. I'll follow up with him tomorrow and see if I can keep the thread posted as I'd love know as much about it as I could as well
 
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You have something of, dare I say it, a rare bird.
The 20,7xx serial will make it an early 168.005 and likely one of the last Constellations with an arrow head dial.

I’m sure @qazwsx1 will have some comparitors to list alongside your watch.
 
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You have something of, dare I say it, a rare bird.
The 20,7xx serial will make it an early 168.005 and likely one of the last Constellations with an arrow head dial.

I’m sure @qazwsx1 will have some comparitors to list alongside your watch.

Lovely to hear and so happy with it. I ended up getting it for around $900 and with the service I'm about $1,300 into it. I thought at that price point something was going to be wrong wrong with it bit is been amazing and I'm content with it. I wanted to black dial arrowhead but I was unsure if it came with a date function.

My next piece will most likely be a '63 Seamaster Deville with a date and sector dial but I know those are TOUGH to come by
 
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I know some are for sale on Japan Yahoo by masters from Saigon.
Be careful. Check the font again and again.
Is the sunburst effect too strong?
 
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I know some are for sale on Japan Yahoo by masters from Saigon.
Be careful. Check the font again and again.
Is the sunburst effect too strong?
Sorry, Was this in regards to the black constellation or the seamaster deville?
 
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Based on my research done around 1.5 years ago, if this is indeed a correct example, this movement number might be ‘one of the latest examples’ of the dogleg pie-pan with arrowhead markers.

However, a single picture is insufficient; therefore, we need multiple high-quality photos taken straight on, focusing on the front without any obstruction from hands.

Additionally, at least for me, I intend to revisit the watchmaker to examine the picture from the backside of this dial.😀
You have something of, dare I say it, a rare bird.
The 20,7xx serial will make it an early 168.005 and likely one of the last Constellations with an arrow head dial.

I’m sure @qazwsx1 will have some comparitors to list alongside your watch.
 
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For me, the major concerns are the strong sunburst effect, as mentioned by @hoipolloi , and the font on OP’s watch, which appears thinner than usual examples of the dogleg with arrowhead markers.

In comparison, the correct ‘gold cap’ example can be referenced from model 168.005.

 
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I get the concern regarding the fine print - indeed the concern I had was the spacing between the e and the l of Constellation.

However, are the watch-fiddlers that good that they would find a very early 168.005, that could conceivably have an arrow head dial, and pair it with a fake dial?
And then sell it for just $1300?

Much easier to just slap an arrow head dial into any old dogleg and sell it for more to an unsuspecting buyer.
 
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I wonder if you want more opinions for the forums.

Why don’t you take more pictures of the dial, as I mentioned? 😅