Help with 166010 dial's originality

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nanjingcigaretes

·Oct 5, 2020

Hi OF,
Good day to you all.
I have just recently bought a Seamaster 166010.
Cal. 565 serial dated 1968.
About the dial, the font seems to be corect, minutes tracks line up perfectly.
However, the dial shape is unusal, I have not seen this dial shape before.
So I post here asking for your opinion, if you guys know or have any info about it.
Thanks.
Harry.

 

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Caliber561

·Oct 5, 2020

My knee-jerk reaction is that this is original, because the script looks good, and things seem to be well-aligned. Because of that, I think this is a genuine dial, even if I've never seen this particular variant before. That said, 1968 does seem a little late for a piece with onyx-inlay markers though, so perhaps the movement was swapped out? In any case, it's a nice watch!

 

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hoipolloi

·Oct 5, 2020

Looks redial to me.

 

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nanjingcigaretes

·Oct 5, 2020

hoipolloi

Looks redial to me.

Can you be more specific. I am also trying to find the evidence that this is a redial. But I can not find any, the scripts is correct and the minute track seems fine, lineup well with the marker.. Please note that the dial does not have different color, it is the same color with different finishing so it reflected the light differently. Honestly I do not see anything wrong but the fact that I have not seen anything like this before. Any thoughts are wellcome.
Harry.

Edited: Oct 5, 2020

 

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nanjingcigaretes

·Oct 5, 2020

Some more pics.

 

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Shabbaz

·Oct 6, 2020

First time I see a dial like this. Even if it’s original the font looks more like a omega service dial. Especially the text 'omega automatic'. It’s bigger then usual on a 166.010. I'm in the dark here.

 

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nanjingcigaretes

·Oct 6, 2020

Shabbaz

First time I see a dial like this. Even if it’s original the font looks more like a omega service dial. Especially the text 'omega automatic'. It’s bigger then usual on a 166.010. I'm in the dark here.

About the text size, I have another 166010 at home, so will take a pics to compare later.

 

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Shabbaz

·Oct 6, 2020

nanjingcigaretes

About the text size, I have another 166010 at home, so will take a pics to compare later.

Well. I think I had around 12 of them. But since I swapped phones I've lost a lot of pictures. Well, they are still on my old phone. Have to do something about that....

 

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Shabbaz

·Oct 6, 2020

Only imperfections I can see are the 59 and 1 second markers and 24 and 26 second markers. They dont line up perfectly. But hey, omega could have done that as well... 😁

 

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Spruce

·Oct 6, 2020·Sunburst dial fan

I’m no expert on redials but both before and since buying my 1968 166.010 I’ve looked at an awful lot of images of these watches and yours looks unique.

My suspicion, and it’s entirely that, is that it’s a franken.

 

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Shabbaz

·Oct 6, 2020

Spruce

I’m no expert on redials but both before and since buying my 1968 166.010 I’ve looked at an awful lot of images of these watches and yours looks unique.

My suspicion, and it’s entirely that, is that it’s a franken.

Yes. It’s unique alright! But It’s well done if it’s not original. The unicorn 166.010. Is it possible?

 

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nanjingcigaretes

·Oct 6, 2020

Shabbaz

Yes. It’s unique alright! But It’s well done if it’s not original. The unicorn 166.010. Is it possible?

That is my point. The more I look at it, the different brushing finishing on the dial is so detailed, create light effects on the dial. I dont think a redialer could do that. Or they would take the risk to do that, they could have just leave it plain and simple.

Edited: Oct 6, 2020

 

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Spruce

·Oct 6, 2020·Sunburst dial fan

nanjingcigaretes

That is my point. The more I look at it, the different brushing finishing on the dial is so detailed, create light effects on the dial. I dont think a redialer could do that.

Well, it may not be a redial/repainted or refinished dial, but it doesn’t look to be the right dial in the right case 😕

 

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hoipolloi

·Oct 6, 2020

nanjingcigaretes

, the scripts is correct

No, it is not.

 

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Shabbaz

·Oct 6, 2020

hoipolloi

No, it is not.

Yes. It’s not a original 166010 script. But it looks a bit like the script of a omega service dial.

 

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Spruce

·Oct 6, 2020·Sunburst dial fan

Shabbaz

Yes. It’s not a original 166010 script. But it looks a bit like the script of a omega service dial.

But what’s it doing in a 166.010 case?

 

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Shabbaz

·Oct 6, 2020

Spruce

But what’s it doing in a 166.010 case?

Having fun with us and chilling out. 😁

 

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Shabbaz

·Oct 6, 2020

To the OP. What's the provenance of the watch?

 

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Spruce

·Oct 6, 2020·Sunburst dial fan

Shabbaz

Having fun with us and chilling out. 😁

You and I are but I’m not sure that the OP is, depending on what he paid for this. 166.010s are costing a bit at present.

 

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nanjingcigaretes

·Oct 6, 2020

Shabbaz

To the OP. What's the provenance of the watch?

I bought it from a local dealer, so, I do not know. You mentioned about Omega service dial, could I get more detail on that, I have searched the forum and googled it and still can not find relative information.