Help wanted Omega Seamaster 166.010

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@lindo thanks for the tip! You also happen to know a renowned eBay seller with a constellation collection?

I have bought seven vintage Constellations from Closer over the last few years - all different, as I wanted a representative group from the 50s and 60s, and he kept finding good examples. You need to keep a close eye on his inventory (pardon the pun) as the good ones sell fairly quickly.

Other Constellations have come from various eBay sources in Australia, Europe, UK and USA. In all cases I have found you need to apply due diligence to every single aspect of what is on offer. Even well established dealers can miss things, especially if they are acting as a broker for other people. For example, I once bought an unusually nice 1980s Manhattan Constellation auto chronometer from Closer which I found had a different serial number on the case to the one on the movement. He replaced it immediately and did not offer it elsewhere afterwards. My guess is that he did not realise the problem when he listed it, which is understandable when he has an inventory of 7000 watches.

Japanese dealers seem to have access to a lot of good watches. Their only drawback is that it is common for them to take out marks and scratches. I am not opposed to a light cleanup, but there is a fine line between that and a watch that just looks too shiny, or has its edges rounded.

I hope this helps.
 
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I thought you might like to see mine, which my watchmaker refinished, both case and bracelet, at my request. It's not perfect, because it's old and you don't want too much material taken off, but I think it looks good cleaned up.

 
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Awesome advise @lindo. Will keep an eye on these as well for sure. Still hesitant on pulling the trigger on the Seamaster...
 
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Does anybody know if omega ever made the 166.010 with a black dial? Thanks in advance.
 
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I saw closer having another Seamaster up on Chrono24. Like this one as well. Seem to have less patina on the dial but no rice bead bracelet.

What do you guys think? Is this better than the first one?

 
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Search the ref. Number in Closer’s eBay store. There are about six of them on EBay including the ones you are finding on Chrino24.
 
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@SkunkPrince you mean the flat link bracelet or the rice bead?
The flat link. Rice beads are common... the flat link, much less so. That would cause me to pay a few hundred more for sure.
 
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The flat link. Rice beads are common... the flat link, much less so. That would cause me to pay a few hundred more for sure.
...as long as it was long enough. Looks like it might be a little short and good luck getting links if it is.
 
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The dial looks fairly good.

The bracelet may be rarer than a BoR but I don’t think it adds significant value nor do I think it suits this reference - the styles just don’t match. Look at the end links as well, they’re not a good fit for the case.
 
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I see quite a few Japanese listing that call any patina of the dial and/or hands "damage". Not sure if that is a translation or a market preference-thing.

I think (might be wrong and want to avoid generalisations) the Japanese really take care of their watches and any normal wear and tear from use is flagged up in terms that Western sellers would reserve for seriously wrecked and ruined examples. Hence we call visibly aged dials "patina" and even get cute with terms like "tropical". We downplay the damage or make a positive out of it; the Japanese like things mint.
 
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The dial looks fairly good.

The bracelet may be rarer than a BoR but I don’t think it adds significant value nor do I think it suits this reference - the styles just don’t match. Look at the end links as well, they’re not a good fit for the case.
Omega has magazine ads with this combination, albeit in gold. The end links can be adjusted and it might have thinner spring bars.
 
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Omega has magazine ads with this combination, albeit in gold. The end links can be adjusted and it might have thinner spring bars.
Do you know if they were folded links as well? I personally find this bracelet a little suspect as it is the first folded links "oyster" style bracelet that I've seen on an Omega from the late 60's. I am curious what the clasp says and would be concerned the clasp cover has been transplanted onto a non-OEM bracelet. I do admit, however, that my experience with bracelets is more limited.

I have seen a 1168/605 "oyster" style bracelet put on these and it looks great. I don't believe it was recommended for this reference, but I recently got one after seeing it work so well.
 
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I saw closer having another Seamaster up on Chrono24. Like this one as well. Seem to have less patina on the dial but no rice bead bracelet.

What do you guys think? Is this better than the first one?


Not with that rotor dragging its arse through the marker residue in the caseback.
 
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Do you know if they were folded links as well? I personally find this bracelet a little suspect as it is the first folded links "oyster" style bracelet that I've seen on an Omega from the late 60's. I am curious what the clasp says and would be concerned the clasp cover has been transplanted onto a non-OEM bracelet. I do admit, however, that my experience with bracelets is more limited.

I have seen a 1168/605 "oyster" style bracelet put on these and it looks great. I don't believe it was recommended for this reference, but I recently got one after seeing it work so well.
These are the ones I was looking at....