Help required fixing Constellation

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Hi there,

I acquired a Constellation a number of years ago from my father, which I believe he purchased from new. Well, he borrowed it back from me a while ago and somehow managed to break the crown off! I can see that the stem has sheared off, the end of which is still stuck in the crown and wonder whether it would be possible to remove the broken part in order to re-use the crown?

I know very little about this watch, reference etc but really need to know whether it's worth getting repaired or even completely refurbed. It's always worked fine and still does, although I have no idea how accurately it's running. It's very dirty but I don't want to clean it in case any liquid or dirt gets in where the stem enters the case. I haven't had the back off so am afraid there are no internal pictures.

So, I'd love to know what this is exactly and what strap it should be fitted with. Also, whether it's worth repairing and perhaps even who in the UK (ideally Kent area) could do it? What cost might I be looking at roughly?

Any info would be much appreciated as I have always been fascinated by watches and would love to get this piece back in use, along with my others.

Sorry about the rather poor pictures and thanks in advance.
 
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Hi Jamie and welcome!
It's a heirloom and for that reason alone worth saving, I guess.The reference should be 14902 or one of the very early 168.005, I think, the inside of the caseback will give us the answer. Calibre will be a 561 automatic movement. It also looks like it might clean up nicely - you wouldn't believe the difference a good service makes. It includes the watchmaker disassembling the whole thing and, among many other things, cleaning the case (usually ultrasonically, I think). Add a polish of the plexi and some love for the mechanics and voila, you'll have a timeless classic.

Now, you asked if it was worth it - completely ignoring the emotional part of it, it's generally not if you plan to sell it. In terms of value, while a good full service will cost you a few hundred quid, it's definitely less than the watch is worth.

Hope you'll stick around and update us with pictures after it's been brought back to life! We do have quite a few members from the UK, I'm sure there'll be someone who can recommend a watchmaker to you.

Oh, and a little detail: The crown can likely be saved, but it depends on how much of the stem is sticking out of it to determine how difficult the extraction will be. Note that I believe the crown to be a service replacement already (which makes sense, given your watch is roughly 60 years old), so if you wanted to go back to the original crown design that would possibly safe the watchmaker some work.
 
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Welcome.....there was a Werewolf who once ran amok in Kent back in the 70's, so beware.😁

Nice heirloom, service, wear and enjoy then pass it on down.
 
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The crown can likely be saved. The reason it broke is because the entire case tube is missing from the case. This is the tube that the crown rides on, and it’s gone somehow. Unusual, but not a problem to repair.

Cheers, Al
 
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Welcome.....there was a Werewolf who once ran amok in Kent back in the 70's, so beware.😁

Nice heirloom, service, wear and enjoy then pass it on down.
I think I saw him drinking a Pina Colada at Trader Vic’s, if I recall, his hair was perfect


Your fathers watch without a doubt worth getting going. I think the Connie’s look good on the BOR type bracelet you could probably find a modern make (maybe) or even leather, whatever you like really. Good luck very nice looking watch
 
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Welcome.....there was a Werewolf who once ran amok in Kent back in the 70's, so beware.😁
That was me, I grew up around Kent in the 70's but I'm alright nowhoooo...
 
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I think I saw him drinking a Pina Colada at Trader Vic’s, if I recall, his hair was perfect

Yep, that was him, his hair was always......PERFECT.......... and lately seen in Mayfair......




Your fathers watch without a doubt worth getting going. I think the Connie’s look good on the BOR type bracelet you could probably find a modern make (maybe) or even leather, whatever you like really. Good luck very nice looking watch
 
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I had an inherited Constellation serviced at Swiss Time Services in Essex a few years back so would recommend getting in touch with them.

Agree with other comments that it’s definitely worth repairing and sympathetically restoring. Send the after pics!
 
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Thanks very much for all the incredible knowledge so far! Brilliant.

I nipped down to my local jewellers this morning and got them to take the back off. The movement, to my eye at least, looks in brilliant condition. Well, clean anyway.

Here a some more pictures:-

Now, I know I want to get it fixed and serviced, but am not sure who would be best for the job!
 
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And something that I find interesting, are all the markings on the inside of the case back. Perhaps made by people who have serviced it in the past?? I can't make much sense of any of them though.
 
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And by all the scratching on the case back it looks to have been serviced a number of times in its life. That’s a good thing.
 
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And something that I find interesting, are all the markings on the inside of the case back. Perhaps made by people who have serviced it in the past?? I can't make much sense of any of them though.
And probably never will. Every watch maker had his or her “shorthand” wether it be a job number, invoice number or just initials and a date.
 
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It looks like the rotor assembly of your watch was replaced at some point. The rotor used is correct for the movement, but from a later time (possibly 1970’s).

Here is a picture of another Ref. 14902-62 with the same movement:

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https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/stunning-omega-constellation-flat-dial-ss-14902-62-sc.5323923/

And for all those who did not get the song lyric references:

gatorcpa
 
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Ok, I've had the watch looked at by a man local to me who has confirmed that I will need a new crown, stem tube and stem. He also says the crystal is aftermarket but I'm tempted just to leave that and give it some TLC. Unfortunately, the stem has snapped off inside the crown and he can't remove it.

So, how do I go about getting the required parts without going aftermarket. I'd love to try and keep it as original as possible, although he says he can just fit some parts which will work....... Then I think I'll just have it serviced, lightly cleaned and try and start using it again.

Any further help would be much appreciated. Thanks
 
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The snapped thread in the crown can be disolved with Alum it can take a week or two, dissolve Alum in warm water until there is a little Alum left that won't dissolve in a glass jar place the crown in the jar of Alum and water, shake it and carefully pick at the stem with a sharp stainless steal pick daily.. this removes the oxidised stem a little at a time, ....eventually after 1-2 weeks of this the Stainless crown and rubber seal (if it has one) will be good to go agian, be careful not to damage the fine threads in the crown. Alum is sold as a deoderant on ebay as a white powder and is cheap. note - Alum dissolves ferrus metals only
 
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Ok, I've had the watch looked at by a man local to me who has confirmed that I will need a new crown, stem tube and stem. He also says the crystal is aftermarket but I'm tempted just to leave that and give it some TLC. Unfortunately, the stem has snapped off inside the crown and he can't remove it.

So, how do I go about getting the required parts without going aftermarket. I'd love to try and keep it as original as possible, although he says he can just fit some parts which will work....... Then I think I'll just have it serviced, lightly cleaned and try and start using it again.

Any further help would be much appreciated. Thanks
Hi Jamie,

You have a lovely watch there and well worth the time and expense to bring it back to it's best. Feel free to read my previous post and see what can be achieved 👍

https://omegaforums.net/threads/1961-connie-refinished-and-back-to-former-glory.141498/

I'm happy to provide detail and costs involved for my particular watch if you want to PM me.
 
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So, how do I go about getting the required parts without going aftermarket.

You could find a watchmaker who has an Omega parts account, and they will be able to source all genuine Omega parts for the watch.
 
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Thanks everyone. I guess I'll just keep my eyes peeled and see if I can get the parts. There's no rush. And I will mention Alum to my watch man.

Lovely restoration there by the way!
 
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Speak to Simon Freese or Swiss Time Services, both in the UK. They should be able to source the parts you need.
 
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I'm going to add a little twist here. If I read it correctly, it's your watch, and you lent it to your dad???? You are the actual owner??? That's a beautiful watch!!! From it's condition maybe your dad doesn't appreciate vintage watches?? I would explain to your dad that once restored you'd like to keep the watch in one piece. I'd offer to buy him a Seiko 5 or an Orient as a subsitute for the Omega. Get the Omega restored and treat it a little more carefully.