Hi all, Hope you're all fine.

For a few weeks I have a problem on the reset pusher of my speedy. Let me explain. It doesn't work at all when placed in the case and hardly works when off. So I took out the movement to have a look and here's what I see :
the pusher looks as it's not in the right axis. Actually it looks to be pointing up. So it doesn't seem to "catch" well the small part under it. Both parts (pusher and small part) seem to be in good condition. It's a bit like the screw that maintains the pusher is not long enough to keep it in the right axis. Nonetheless, the screw desn't look damaged.
some advice?

 

You don't say what model this is in (Speedy Pro, Mk II, etc.) but the enlargement ring should keep the pusher stem for zero action (the part in question) in it's proper alignment.

BTW showing this watch clamped in the movement holder on the dial is giving me the willies...

 

Hello Archer

Sorry, this is a 145022. the movement ring does not seem to hold the pusher in place. Worse, it's impossible to push them when cased though I cleaned and greases them well. The thing is : is this 'up' position normal? I always put my dials on the holder, tighten it's very safe.

 

You need to look at how the enlargement ring is fitted then, because as you can see it should come down and align the pusher stem...if it's not coming down onto the pusher stem, then it's not installed correctly....



You could also remove the screw that retains the pusher stem and make sure the tip of it is not broken off, or maybe take this to a professional watchmaker who can help you understand how all this fits together.

Cheers, Al

PS - putting dials down in a movement holder like this is not safe, and very bad practice...

 

I removed the screw and the tip is not broken. Can one really see the pusher get down when screwing in? I'm going to fity the ring again and take a pic.

thanks again.

 

well; I tried again and nothing. The pushers begin to move in but no click. I don't want to press too hard so as not to break anything. Mau be the tubes of the pushers are to be changed.

 

I think you should take this to someone who knows how to work on these, before something gets damaged.

 

Well; I'm rather skilled at watch maintenance but there's something I can't understand there. It's true that I'm not used to fixing chronograph. Does anyone know where I can Buy pusher tubes for my case? Can't find them at offrei...

 

yes?

 

I'm just a bit confused by the contradiction in the words you used.

"rather skilled at watch maintenance"

"something I can't understand"

"not used to fixing chronograph"

 

hm. There are so many factors when something goes wrong with a movement that sometimes it's hard to point out what matters. I was just undelining that I 'm used to maintenaing day date automatic and mechanical movement such as 2824, or Omega 1012, 56x. Chronos are different and I won't be conceited enough to pretend that I'm able to fix a 861. That is why I was asking this question here before breaking something.

 

@Archer love your expression "BTW showing this watch clamped in the movement holder on the dial is giving me the willies..."
One I use a lot and mistakenly assumed it was more or less unique to the UK

 

It seems that some have bad habits (me) but actually I don't really see the risk of clamping a dial in such a way. I usually clamp it without the dial when I work on a movement of course but when I just have to remove an oscillating weight or show a pusher I'm not going to unmount the dial and hands

 

Better to spend a few minutes removing/re-fitting hands and dial than to regret scratching the dial and crushing the lume plots.

 

If by "pusher tubes" you mean just the body of the pusher that threads into the watch case, those are not available separately - you have to buy the whole pusher assembly. Part number is 086ST0059.

Well, I only hope that you work on just your own watches, and are not doing this for others (either for money or for free). Taking shortcuts and being lazy about it are not good work practices. How clamping a dial like you have done here can be seen as having no risk associated with it is beyond me.

Sorry to be blunt, but doing this for a living means that I take the time to do the job right, and I am always willing to improve my work standards and procedures...to borrow a phrase heard often in my previous life as a project engineer, it's all about "continuous improvement" in the workplace, and I hope you will take the comments made here constructively and look at how you do things.

I recall attending a 1 week long class on something once, where there were about 12 watchmakers in the class in total. One watchmaker put his hand up and asked why the benches in the classroom didn't have those wooden frames with fabric on them that pull out and cover your lap in case you dropped a part. I've never used one of these, so I hadn't even wondered about the lack of a catch tray. The answer given stuck with me...the instructor said "Because we are professional watchmakers, and we know how to handle parts properly." That didn't mean we never dropped a part, but it was more about instilling a mindset of doing the job properly...that's the difference between someone who repairs watches, and someone who is a proper watchmaker, or strives to be one.

Cheers, Al

 

Don't worry archer. I work with the proper tools. Yes I do work for others and despite what you undesrtood from me I work really cleanly. I hate "lazy job" I always clean fine With US machine, elma etc. rince thouroughly, oil precisly. For instance I don't tolerate more than 30 second for a date jump. Let me explain about this speedy. I had it for a very very sweet price because there are some work to do on it. But as I'm not a specialist of chronos I won't do anything that could be seen as a provocation. I'm only going to change the crystal, chrono hand and crown myself. Fort the rest I'm going to see a friend who's a specialist.
As you see on the picture, the watch is decent so, no intention to destroy it. Sorry that I hurt you placing the dial on the holder, that was stupid. The watch looks worst on pictures than it actually is, as often. but for 1200 bucks...

cheers