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  1. durri70 Aug 24, 2020

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    Hello to all OF members :)
    I just bought this mint movement with an amazing porcelain dial. I don't have much information about this brand DUNCAN neither about the caliber (the only inscription that has is R44) any idea about what manufacturer made this chronograph . Thanks a lot

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  2. TexOmega Aug 24, 2020

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    Nice beginnings to a nice chronograph.
    I'd guess mid to late 1930's from the dial.

    A member will be along to ID the movement, I'd guess Landeron


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    Manufacturer then Location



    google is your friend


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  3. DaveK Yoda of Yodelers Aug 24, 2020

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    On behalf of the description police, this is not “mint”, as in fresh as the day it was born. Lovely piece, I look forward to seeing how it goes with finding a case, it’ll look great :coffee:
     
  4. durri70 Aug 25, 2020

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    thanks for sharing information , from what I saw online is not a Landeron. I will keep searching unless someone here has deep knowledge and shares :)

     
  5. ChrisN Aug 25, 2020

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    Could be a Minerva? It has some similarities to this 19-9CH I did a few years ago and this was from 1923. This is a mono-pusher pocket watch so a slightly different layout.
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    On the dial side, you would see this symbol:
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    Good luck, Chris
     
  6. durri70 Aug 25, 2020

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    Thanks Chris but looking at both layouts I would say that is not the same.
     
  7. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Aug 25, 2020

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    Yes, he noted that.

    Do you have a picture of the dial side of the movement (keyless works) and what is the diameter in millimetres?

    It looks to be a Valjoux of some sort to my eyes.
     
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  8. durri70 Aug 25, 2020

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    well the size of the dial is 35mm, in case will be a Valjoux which one ?
    here are pictures of the side of the caliber. No key , it's a manual winding
    thanks

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  9. durri70 Aug 25, 2020

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    :)
     
  10. Dan S Aug 25, 2020

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    I think it's a Landeron-Hahn caliber (15.5''' possibly), but I haven't nailed it down yet.
     
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  11. durri70 Aug 25, 2020

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    I will search for that caliber and compare, thanks Dan
     
  12. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Aug 25, 2020

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    Landeron 15.5''' is getting close.

    However, we need to see the movement with the dial off (as in the lower picture) so that the shape of the keyless works can be seen.
    These are like the "fingerprints" of a watch movement.

    The style of the layout is almost generic and was used by many makers. Valjoux, Landeron, De Praz etc.

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  13. durri70 Aug 26, 2020

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    wow, thanks a lot, there is nothing like an old book
     
  14. durri70 Aug 27, 2020

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    is not a Landeron 15.5
     
  15. Dan S Aug 27, 2020

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    Do you have a photo of the dial side yet?
     
  16. durri70 Aug 27, 2020

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    do you mean under the dial?
     
  17. Dan S Aug 27, 2020

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    The dial (front) side of the movement, showing the keyless works as @JimInOz mentioned. And it would be nice for you to explain your reasoning about the conclusion that it is not a Landeron-Hahn.
     
  18. durri70 Aug 27, 2020

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    can you share any picture as example, I don't really get you, I thought that the pictures that I share were enough , thanks
     
  19. Dan S Aug 27, 2020

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    Please read the post from @JimInOz, he already explained it very well. Please explain why you think it is not a Landeron-Hahn.
     
  20. durri70 Aug 27, 2020

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    I just compare the images and does not seem the same
    can you share the link of JiminOz please