Help me- Longines 5697 "special" dial, sei tacche.

[skand]

Hello everyone.
I'm fascinated by Longines watches from the 1940s. This is the third item in my collection, but due to lack of knowledge I have to seek help from more experienced people. I have many questions about this watch, but the most important thing is whether it looks original. Have any of you encountered the "special" dial in this reference?

 

[bubba48]

The dial is original and very fine. The caseback match the case and the movement is in very good condition.
Nice watch. Congrats.

 

[qiushui]

I am just an admirer and learner of the old longines table, and hope that experienced teachers can express their opinions more so that everyone can learn.
Personally, I remain cautious about the original nature of the dial of this longines watch, and Longines' words look more like a drawn font than a printed font. In addition, the viscosity of L and O is also where I should be wary.

 

[skand]

The problem is that there is very little learning material. This Longines Special watch has a central second, while all others have a lower second. I haven't found any 5697 with such a dial on the Internet. All discussions about the Longines sei and tre tacche watches are about whether the dials have been repainted, and about the dials being transferred from the sei to the tre, but they are not flat. Does anyone know what the book Longines Legendary Watches by John Goldberger contains? Are there any examples of watch dials from the 1940s?

 

[Radiumpassion]

I would be suprised if this watch is not original….. Looks very good to me.

 

[J_pilot]

I agree that this watch is all-original, and a reverse image search yielded this very similar example.

https://watchcharts.com/listing/2932272-vintage-longines-cal-27m-17-jewels-aged-dial-st

 

[skand]

I'm new to 1940s and 1950s Longines watches, but I'm not new to vintage watches. I looked at many different fonts before purchasing it. For me it's not a redial. I have a stupid mania for finding rare things among rare things and reading about them. Longines does not have a well-described period in which I am interested

 

[J_pilot]

skand

I'm new to 1940s and 1950s Longines watches, but I'm not new to vintage watches. I looked at many different fonts before purchasing it. For me it's not a redial. I have a stupid mania for finding rare things among rare things and reading about them. Longines does not have a well-described period in which I am interested

There was a lot of dial/signature variation in the 40s, imo. It looks like you found a great watch!

 

[skand]

J_pilot

There was a lot of dial/signature variation in the 40s, imo. It looks like you found a great watch!

Thanks. I already have two similar sei tacche. From that first sei tacche 35.5 mm – Breguet numerals, I caught the bug for collecting Longines from the 1940s

 

[LesXL]

Lovely watch, and looks very fine to me

skand

Thanks. I already have two similar sei tacche. From that first sei tacche 35.5 mm – Breguet numerals, I caught the bug for collecting Longines from the 1940s

Welcome to the club

 

[skand]

Does anyone know when Longines stopped marking the case like that?

 

[LesXL]

It might have been model specific as the Conquest also have those matching numbers, so that would take us already as from 1954.

Some of mine dating from 57/58 have them.

Other references from the same era don't have such "feature"