Help! Is this watch authentic?

Kurt S. · Sep 20, 2019

Hello everyone! I hope you’re all having a wonderful morning/evening/night. This is my first post on this forum that I’m quite excited to become a part of.
I really just want help to see if a watch I’m excited about is real or not, and I figured who could be better to ask.
All I know is that the advertiser says it’s a 1965 Seamaster. Ref #165.002 with a cal. 552. Automatic.
Thoughts? Worth the buy?

Thank you very much!

Dan S · Sep 21, 2019

As indicated by the seller in the listing, the dial has been repainted. I not 100% on this, but I suspect that the hands are also not original, because I think they should be stick hands. I also wonder if the rotor hasn't been swapped, since it looks gold plated instead of copper, although that could possibly be due to a lighting artifact.

X350 XJR · Sep 21, 2019

Genuine but the dial is refinished, which is not a good thing. Case also looks like its been "cleaned up" for resale.

PASS.

Benbradstock · Sep 21, 2019

Dial has been repainted, I’d give it a 6 out of 10. Since you’re new here, I’ll tell you that black dials need to be scrutinized at least twice as hard as others, as they are much more desirable now than they were when watches like these being made, and thus more often redials. I would steer clear of this one; good luck in your hunt.

Foo2rama · Sep 21, 2019

Korean seller? Or out of Los Angeles?

KingCrouchy · Sep 21, 2019

I would get something else, the redial hurts it's value by a lot.

VintageWatchIta · Sep 21, 2019

it is original! As said, the dial is badly repainted 🙁

JwRosenthal · Sep 21, 2019

I bought a black redial when I got into these early Seamaster’s and thought is was beautiful. But as I started learning about the difference between originality and redone, I quickly became disenchanted with it- and ended up moving it along.
If you want an all original watch that will retain its value and make you feel the pride of wearing a well preserved vintage Omega, then avoid these redials. There are real black ones but 95% of the time the dial will show some age and look less than perfect like this one.
Stick around, do lots of reading and and ask lots of questions-you will hone your eye to be able to tell the differences

Dan S · Sep 21, 2019

JwRosenthal
I bought a black redial when I got into these early Seamaster’s and thought is was beautiful. But as I started learning about the difference between originality and redone, I quickly became disenchanted with it- and ended up moving it along.
If you want an all original watch that will retain its value and make you feel the pride of wearing a well preserved vintage Omega, then avoid these redials. There are real black ones but 95% of the time the dial will show some age and look less than perfect like this one.
Stick around, do lots of reading and and ask lots of questions-you will hone your eye to be able to tell the differences

And actually read the listing. In this case, the seller is totally upfront about it. 90% of his watches are re-dialed, and he states it clearly in each listing.
https://www.chrono24.com/omega/1965...rals-steel-mens-vintage-watch--id11485236.htm

JwRosenthal · Sep 21, 2019

Dan S
And actually read the listing. In this case, the seller is totally upfront about it. 90% of his watches are re-dialed, and he states it clearly in each listing.
https://www.chrono24.com/omega/1965...rals-steel-mens-vintage-watch--id11485236.htm

This is true- can’t fault a seller when he is honest. Some people really love these black redials, and they can be very well done and very pretty. I’ve seen some dials that were so trashed that a redial can breathe new life into an otherwise decent watch rather than go to the parts bin.
I still have one redial that is so very pretty and I think very well done- but I don’t wear it much becuase I know it’s not original.

Help! Is this watch authentic?

Kurt S.

Dan S

X350 XJR

Benbradstock

Foo2rama

KingCrouchy

VintageWatchIta

JwRosenthal

Dan S

JwRosenthal

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