Help identifying Vintage Seamaster Deville

barazr · Nov 29, 2020

Hello all,
I could really use some help Identifying the date/reference of this beautiful Seamaster De Ville. I got the watch in Syria for the equivilant of $150 US in June 2020. Other than a mismatched end-link, and a slightly bent crown, the watch is in excellent shape.
It is a manual wind no date with black dial, gold indices and hands, and monobloc case (no caseback). The case and bracelet are in Stainless Steel and the crystal is plastic. The dial is showing some beautiful patina, which is why I opted out of sending it to omega for a restoration. In my opinion, the signs of use only add character to the watch.

I was able to find information dating the watch bck to 1963-1967 but I'm not sure of the exact date. I also don't have any information about the movement. It is a manual wind with time only. Im also not sure if the black dial is original to the watch as all others I could find never had this combination of gold markers and hands on the black dial (they were usually steel. I would appreciate any information helping me identify this watch.

All the best,
Baraa

Dimitris · Nov 29, 2020

Friendly tip , post some better pictures and try opening the caseback so we can see the caliber ,reference and serial number.

padders · Nov 29, 2020

Dimitris
Friendly tip , post some better pictures and try opening the caseback so we can see the caliber ,reference and serial number.

That is likely a front loader, if he does try to open the caseback it might not go well!

Dimitris · Nov 29, 2020

padders
That is likely a front loader, if he does try to open the caseback it might not go well!

My bad then , take it to a watchmaker beacause it likely needs a service too.

janice&fred · Nov 29, 2020

padders
That is likely a front loader, if he does try to open the caseback it might not go well!

Oh man I almost spit my gatorade all over my screen 😁

Dimitris · Nov 29, 2020

Hahahaha glad that I made you laugh , mistakes were made 😟😗.

Rudi99 · Nov 29, 2020

B barazr
The dial is showing some beautiful patina, which is why I opted out of sending it to omega for a restoration. In my opinion, the signs of use only add character to the watch.

All the best,
Baraa

Hi Baraa. Did you already send it to Omega for a "restoration"/service?

If not, you might wanna reconsider it, as such services are very expensive and they will most probably replace the dial, which as you said it yourself is so nice. They should send the old dial back, but in the end, just sending it for a service of the movement and a cleaning of the case and crystal done by a local trusted watchmaker would be the best (and most economical) option...

If you tell us where you are located, people should be able to recomend you some for the next time.

barazr · Nov 29, 2020

@Rudi99 @Dimitris @janice&fred @padders Yes indeed it is a front loader. I did take the case apart but still couldn't reach the movement. Omega couldn't find me the missing end-link for the bracelet and they quoted a really high price for service. I am located in Dubai, if anybody knows a good watchmaker with reasonable pricing, I would more than appreciate the recommendation.
Again apologies for the low quality pictures that were taken at the office where I decided to launch this thread.

hoipolloi · Nov 30, 2020

Can be a 14915 Seamaster de Ville powered by a 600 movement.

hoipolloi · Nov 30, 2020

Talking about hands, if you do not see any lume on those hour markers and no T after Swiss Made, then your hands are wrong. You will need hands like mine.

masteroftime · Nov 30, 2020

Nice find and well worth the price. Replacing the missing end link will be a little difficult, but well worth it because the beads of rice bracelet is in popular demand. If you look at the correct link that you have, there should be a number on it. if you search " omega end link" and that number online and on eBay, you may find that somebody has an end link for sale. Also, I would check the other mismatched end link as well...although unlikely, it could possibly be from another Omega bracelet and could be valuable.

With Omegas of this era, I have seen some steel watches with yellow gold markers and others have furnished photos of examples, so they do exist. It may not be possible to say for sure if that is the original dial for your watch. At minimum, it does seem like it has the incorrect hands and it definitely seems like the crystal has been replaced at some point.

apsm100 · Nov 30, 2020

Second hand also looks incorrect; wrong shape and length.

barazr · Nov 30, 2020

hoipolloi
Talking about hands, if you do not see any lume on those hour markers and no T after Swiss Made, then your hands are wrong. You will need hands like mine.

there is a 2Ts to the sides of Swiss made at the bottom, but I definitely think the line has worn off.

barazr · Nov 30, 2020

masteroftime
Nice find and well worth the price. Replacing the missing end link will be a little difficult, but well worth it because the beads of rice bracelet is in popular demand. If you look at the correct link that you have, there should be a number on it. if you search " omega end link" and that number online and on eBay, you may find that somebody has an end link for sale. Also, I would check the other mismatched end link as well...although unlikely, it could possibly be from another Omega bracelet and could be valuable.

With Omegas of this era, I have seen some steel watches with yellow gold markers and others have furnished photos of examples, so they do exist. It may not be possible to say for sure if that is the original dial for your watch. At minimum, it does seem like it has the incorrect hands and it definitely seems like the crystal has been replaced at some point.

Agreed, I am having difficulties with finding the end link. Even securing them from eBay will cost me as much as the watch itself.
The hands seem bent but I do take the point on the second hand. Did they only come in one length?

Edward53 · Nov 30, 2020

The watch has definitely been apart at some time because the tension ring doesn't fit, see the gap between 11 and 12. The second hand is either broken (probably) or replaced. If you are right about the missing lume then the other hands are probably ok. The dial certainly looks original and the other issues are minor. And even if it is a redial, it is a very good one indeed and a steal at what you paid! 👍

barazr · Nov 30, 2020

Edward53
The watch has definitely been apart at some time because the tension ring doesn't fit, see the gap between 11 and 12. The second hand is either broken (probably) or replaced. If you are right about the missing lume then the other hands are probably ok. The dial certainly looks original and the other issues are minor. And even if it is a redial, it is a very good one indeed and a steal at what you paid! 👍

The tension ring actually turn with the crystal. This doesn’t really bother me though. I would hate to replace the Crystal as is the case with these soft crystals that they will eventually pick up some scratches. The second hand went completely unnoticed for me until it was pointed out in this thread, but I’m still not sure if it was replaced or just broken. And yes, the dial is stunning and the pictures don’t do it full justice. I will try to upload some better shots in daylight. Thanks for the input buddy, it’s always a good idea to look for watches in poorer countries where they are viewed as an unattainable luxury (I certainly enjoyed doing so).

Help identifying Vintage Seamaster Deville

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