Hello everyone, I have recently got my hands on this unique piece and can use some help from the experts to identify it. Both the case back and the case side, have 19k (0.800) inscribed. I wound it 3 hours ago, seems to be keeping good time. Something interesting about it is the loud knocking sound it makes when shaken. at first i thought it was broken inside, but since it's keeping good time, i can't say it's broken. The seller claims that it is called a bumper, and the name is because of that bumping sound it makes (I have no clue) I know that it's missing the seconds hand and also that the crown is not original. I am also doubtful about the weird font on the dial (Omega Automatic). I tried opening it, but cannot remove the watch dial and movement from the case back. I don't want to break it by being too rash so left it alone. It's a big piece with substantial wrist presence, somewhere between my 40mm GMT master and 36mm Oyster perpetual date. I want to take it to SF Omega Service Center to get new hands and crown.....ohhh i want to put blue hands on it Any help with identification and information on this watch is appreciated. I am always curious to learn about the watches I find.
A few reasons to be suspicious. And I am concerned that it is a fake. Omega didnt hallmark the back of their cases like that, nor did they make 19k cases. However, it is possible that it is an aftermarket case, or that it was made by a local agent somewhere. Do you have photos of the movement?
Here are the shots of the movement.... I guess it's a fake, no omega symbol on the case or the movement Only thing on the case back inside is a "H" movement has "omega" "swiss" and "17 jewels" written on the rotor. also number "10231579"
The movement is genuine. It is a bumper as described. Case isnot omega. Probably aftermarket. A previous owner probably decided to replace the case for some reason.
Thanks for the inputs guys, really appreciated. any idea about the dial, the writing looks sort of wierd too? I am afraid to ask, is this what we call a franken...as pictured above...
Kind of, but not. Franken is usually when all of the parts are genuine, but all from different watches. Like shoving together puzzle pieces that don't quite fit. Here, the previous owner may well have had a perfectly good reason to replace the case. The last one might have been irreparably damaged or something.
The dial is repainted almost certain. Italic letters are from a much earlier era and do not match with "automatic". It seems they have used different moulds or something... recasing is not always a bad thing as it was pretty common on those days to meet customers tastes. I have this Longines with a designed SS case (not by longines) and I just love it!
Honestly, $50-$100 for the movement, plus the value of the gold in the case, assuming it is actually gold
Authentic Omega bumper from the mid 1940's. The dial is at least refinished. The case is not Omega in any way. Doubt it's really "19K" gold either. I'd bet it came from South America (or worse - our buddies in those former Soviet provinces). As mentioned above, it's not worth anything except for the movement.
Sorry for a late response....i have been completely caught up in work and away from Internet.... I had my watchmaker test it, it is real 19k Rose gold, but like everyone said it is an aftermarket case and dial. Only thing Omega is the movement...