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Hi folks!

Appreciate any help in identifying this movement. It is in a 1940s dual-marked Omega Turler. Assuming this is made locally in the UK as it is 14K gold and sold in Europe. I matched both serial numbers to around 1947 but can’t identify the movement. I am considering purchasing and want another opinion on whether this is the real deal. Thanks for any insight!
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I don’t know the answer but curious to see the other parts of the watch. Most people cannot think without a holistic view- including the front and the back.
 
Dan S
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It's one of the bumper automatics obviously, but I can't tell which one from those photos. Is it a sub-second or sweep second?
 
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Thank you so much folks - appreciate the rapid responses. Does it look authentic from what you can see? Here is one more picture from the front.
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Yes, quite authentic and appears pretty nice, although the dial has a good bit of bubbling, but appears original based on this less than optimal photo.

Swiss made case. UK cases were typically 9K and often made by DENNISON and would not bear Swiss hallmarks as seen here.

What is the asking price?
 
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Thanks X350. Appreciate your thoughts. Asking price is $2,000 and the seller says the face is completely original. He says the bubbling is a lot less prominent in person but definitely noticed it. Here’s another pic.
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Nice original early bumper automatic - but IMHO the price is too high given the condition of the dial.
For $2000 you can find much better examples (if you are patient).
 
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The bubbling as it stands is probably not terrible distracting on the wrist, but it concerns me. I would not be surprised to see it deteriorate further.
 
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Agree on the price being too high, that dial isn't certainly going to get any better with time.

Also it is 14K and not 18K. Maybe $1250 if you can live with the dial.
 
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Thanks all - you are amazingly helpful. If I could impose a little more - how do you feel about the quality/value of this:

https://www.vintagegoldwatches.com/product/omega-seamaster-automatic-cal-565-9ct-1968/

Next to the dial, the movement and inside caseback are the most crucial photos.
9 ct. gold indicates an English case, not as valuable as a Swiss cased example.

Beautiful watch but not worth half the asking price in my book, especially without extensive photos and info.

However, the highest quality is displayed by your courteous requests and good sense to ask first.

Enjoy the hunt, it is a big part of the fun and that perfect watch is out there, we just have to find it!
 
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Next to the dial, the movement and inside caseback are the most crucial photos.
9 ct. gold indicates an English case, not as valuable as a Swiss cased example.

Beautiful watch but not worth half the asking price in my book, especially without extensive photos and info.

However, the highest quality is displayed by your courteous requests and good sense to ask first.

Enjoy the hunt, it is a big part of the fun and that perfect watch is out there, we just have to find it!

Thank you, Uncle Buck. In general, I believe in the hard-earned value of expertise - which I know I do not have in this case. I have received three watches in my lifetime - two new with original papers and one vintage with zero information. Those were much simpler to internalize mentally as they either had sentimental value or I knew where they came from.

When something seems too good to be true, I am almost sure it is. I am assuming at this price point there is a tremendous amount of variability in quality, authenticity, provenance, and dealer honesty - plus very little market clarity on how to value something.

I will keep my eyes open and may impose upon you fine folks again. I am looking for something in gold pre-1970 and just want to make sure I’m not being silly or hasty. Thanks again.
 
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Thank you, Uncle Buck. In general, I believe in the hard-earned value of expertise - which I know I do not have in this case. I have received three watches in my lifetime - two new with original papers and one vintage with zero information. Those were much simpler to internalize mentally as they either had sentimental value or I knew where they came from.

When something seems too good to be true, I am almost sure it is. I am assuming at this price point there is a tremendous amount of variability in quality, authenticity, provenance, and dealer honesty - plus very little market clarity on how to value something.

I will keep my eyes open and may impose upon you fine folks again. I am looking for something in gold pre-1970 and just want to make sure I’m not being silly or hasty. Thanks again.

We prefer you "impose", which you aren't before making a purchase and not after.

Be patient, the right watch will come along.

Keep an eye open here:

https://omegaforums.net/forums/private-watch-sales/
 
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Keep an eye open here:

https://omegaforums.net/forums/private-watch-sales/

And to a lesser extent, here:
Recommended Vintage OMEGA WATCHES (only) On EBAY (NOT for Inquiries)

I only say a lesser extent because it is a more competitive, less secure market than dealing with established collector's that are a proven part of the OF family.
 
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Update here - thanks to your guidance I bought a Seamaster 30 from @hockey - I can’t post a seller review but he was a total gentleman, answered questions, and sent me even more great info about the Tresors. Watch arrived today in beautiful condition two days early. Cannot wait to enjoy it. Thanks Phil!
 
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Great to hear and congrats to both👍
 
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