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Help Identifying Dad's Old Watch-Seamaster 300

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Hello... I'm looking for assistance in finding out more about my Dad's old watch. My guess is it's from the early 60's but honestly don't know. My local jeweler recommended trying this forum - he's an Omega fan but couldn't offer much help other than it's a 'classic'. I've looked at a lot of online photos of vintage Seamasters and haven't seen one with the same face and hands as this one...? Any and all input or opinions are welcome! Not looking to sell, just to learn more about it prior to sending to Omega for refurbishing.

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I believe it could be a 14755 or an early 165.014 but with incorrect hands, correct bracelet and mismatched end links. Removing the case-back at watchmaker would help determine exactly. Your dad has good taste
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KingCrouchy
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Please don't send it to Omega for refurbishment as they will change a lot of parts and you end up with a Watch worth pennies on the Dollar.
A simple service by an independent Watchmaker without polishing is all this Watch needs
 
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I think it is a legit and well preserved transitional 165.014, most likely from 1962 (ref. 165.014-62).

Crown has been replaced obviously.

The bezel could be restored.

The bracelet looks correct, but the #48 end piece is wrong.

Very, very nice! 👍
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Very nice watch.😀 It has a nice value also. Could you open it when you go to your friend jewelier? It would be interesting to see the reference on the caseback, so we can tell you more about the hands.
Thank you
 
OMEGuy
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Is it a 4 over 63 or 4 over 61 on the inside of the clasp?

I first read a 63, but I'm no longer sure? Having had a closer look, seems to be a 61 to me now.

If the bracelet is original to the watch and dates to 1961, the other option is ref. 14755, in which case the hands would have been replaced.

So exactly as @Cuttysark says, you need to have opened the watch to know exactly what you have there...
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Edward53
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What a wonderful, fabulous, superb classic in amazing rare excellent near-original untouched condition. But...
brooks4 brooks4
Not looking to sell, just to learn more about it prior to sending to Omega for refurbishing.

😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲::facepalm1::

[ETA: you might rethink the bit about not selling when you find out how much it's worth....]
 
JimJupiter
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Good you showed and asked BEFORE sending it to Omega: Just don't do it. You will destroy emotional (more or less you will get a new watch) and monetary value!
 
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Edward53 Edward53
What a wonderful, fabulous, superb classic in amazing rare excellent near-original untouched condition. But...


😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲::facepalm1::

[ETA: you might rethink the bit about not selling when you find out how much it's worth....]

not a real apples>apples comparison but just to give you an idea of asking prices
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^

That’s a pretty unrealistic price though... maybe (and I mean maybe) for a mint CK2913 but not for a 165.014. No doubt a valuable watch though, and a great family piece 👍
 
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not a real apples>apples comparison but just to give you an idea of asking prices
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Optimism reigns! [Was that one from the "unrealistic price expectations" thread?]
 
Dan S
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It's probably useful for the OP to understand that a fully intact bezel in excellent condition is extremely rare and valuable.
 
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It's probably useful for the OP to understand that a fully intact bezel in excellent condition is extremely rare and valuable.

Oooooh... does mine count as fully intact... just ignore the rubbed bit and cracks.

I can see dollar signs already 😁

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Oooooh... does mine count as fully intact... just ignore the rubbed bit and cracks.

I can see dollar signs already 😁

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Great watch and bezel.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to say anything weird. People were talking about value, and I just wanted the OP to understand.
 
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Great watch and bezel.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to say anything weird. People were talking about value, and I just wanted the OP to understand.
Yes I know it’s “great”... but is it fully intact, early retirement sounds lovely 😜
 
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Yes I know it’s “great”... but is it fully intact, early retirement sounds lovely 😜

Put it up for sale and you will find out. 🙄
 
brooks4
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Wow.... and here I thought it was just Dad's old watch and it'd be cool to have it work correctly and wear it!...
Ok, I've heard it's all about the bezel and obviously mine (dad's) is missing a good portion. From what I'm reading, repair reduces value??? As it's no longer original? I'm a bit more knowledgable about cars and restoration, which can increase value - not the same with watches?
Also, what are the concerns with sending to Omega... I'm getting the sense that their efforts won't respect the integrity of the piece? The main issue I'm trying to address, and others may have experience with this, is that another repair shop (I'm told, one of the older and better shops in Atlanta, my home area) opened it up a few years ago and said they couldn't fix it as the support bracket for the automatic system was cracked?? Thus my thought to send to to Omega... open to more insight and referrals - if that's allowed on the forum.
 
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brooks4 brooks4
Wow.... and here I thought it was just Dad's old watch and it'd be cool to have it work correctly and wear it!...
Ok, I've heard it's all about the bezel and obviously mine (dad's) is missing a good portion. From what I'm reading, repair reduces value??? As it's no longer original? I'm a bit more knowledgable about cars and restoration, which can increase value - not the same with watches?
Also, what are the concerns with sending to Omega... I'm getting the sense that their efforts won't respect the integrity of the piece? The main issue I'm trying to address, and others may have experience with this, is that another repair shop (I'm told, one of the older and better shops in Atlanta, my home area) opened it up a few years ago and said they couldn't fix it as the support bracket for the automatic system was cracked?? Thus my thought to send to to Omega... open to more insight and referrals - if that's allowed on the forum.

In short, most of the time Omega will replace dial, hands bezel and so on, with service parts. Once that happens, value of the watch has gone down the drain. My understanding is they do this because they give out warranty with all the service they do, so they use new parts to make sure they can honor that warranty.

In terms of the movement issue, paging @Archer who may know what is being talked about and decipher what the issue may be.
 
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