Help Identifying and Evaluating My Omega Vintage 2650

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BTW, do the papers make sense? Does anyone have similar papers from the 1950s for comparison?
 
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BTW, do the papers make sense? Does anyone have similar papers from the 1950s for comparison?
I don’t know about the papers, but my mom was born in Zwolle, and we’re now in Canada, so that was fun to see.
 
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Someone claimed it’s “terribly over-polished”, but that’s simply not the case. In my opinion, the watch looks fantastic. Considering it’s from the 1950s, some excellent work has clearly been done to restore its stunning appearance. That said, I also appreciate watches that are left unpolished and untouched—I actually have another Omega from the 40s in original condition.
That “some one” is a very knowledgeable guy. You can click on the avatars( photos) and see the details of the poster. A senior well established member will have a lot of posts and a proportional no of ‘likes’( often several folds). So their opinions should be given more weightage if you want to know what is what and learn.
This watch is definitely over polished. I am sure it looks pretty. That’s why they polish it in the first place. But not to a collector. Usually @gbesq come in and put a stunning sharp example of a similar case and end all arguments.
It’s a beautiful watch and you can wear it happily, but since you brought up original dial and unpolished case, I think it might not end up your favourite watch down the line.
 
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No placating here- if you love it that is all that matters. My first vintage Seamaster was a redial (had that news broken to me by some of the same members that have posted here) but it was very well done and the watch was beautiful. As I became a more discriminating collector of vintage, the originality and condition of watches started to become more important to me. Watches with dial damage (patina as some call it) were sold and that lovely first redialed Seamaster I gave to a friend who knows it’s been redialed and doesn’t care- he loves it.
 
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That “some one” is a very knowledgeable guy. You can click on the avatars( photos) and see the details of the poster. A senior well established member will have a lot of posts and a proportional no of ‘likes’( often several folds). So their opinions should be given more weightage if you want to know what is what and learn.
This watch is definitely over polished. I am sure it looks pretty. That’s why they polish it in the first place. But not to a collector. Usually @gbesq come in and put a stunning sharp example of a similar case and end all arguments.
It’s a beautiful watch and you can wear it happily, but since you brought up original dial and unpolished case, I think it might not end up your favourite watch down the line.
I didn’t understand why this forum felt so hostile. I would advise other newcomers like me to think twice before posting. Regardless of knowledge or experience, everyone deserves respect, and discussions should be approached with positive and constructive language.
Despite all the criticism, I still love my watch—it looks stunning. It’s the perfect dress watch for my wrist, far better suited than the contemporary oversized models on the market.
 
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Where's the disrespect? You asked for opinion and you received it. Just because you don't agree with what you heard doesn't make this place hostile. Please also keep in mind that "fantastic condition" means different to everyone, and you can probably understand that the bar is higher for collectors to say that about a watch.

The watch looks very nice by the way, enjoy it!
 
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I didn’t understand why this forum felt so hostile. I would advise other newcomers like me to think twice before posting. Regardless of knowledge or experience, everyone deserves respect, and discussions should be approached with positive and constructive language.
Despite all the criticism, I still love my watch—it looks stunning. It’s the perfect dress watch for my wrist, far better suited than the contemporary oversized models on the market.
Another satisfied customer.
 
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Just because you don't agree with what you heard doesn't make this place hostile.
Apparently, that's exactly how some people think. I can't help thinking it must make it very difficult for them to learn new things.
 
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I didn’t understand why this forum felt so hostile. I would advise other newcomers like me to think twice before posting. Regardless of knowledge or experience, everyone deserves respect, and discussions should be approached with positive and constructive language.
Despite all the criticism, I still love my watch—it looks stunning. It’s the perfect dress watch for my wrist, far better suited than the contemporary oversized models on the market.

There’s a difference between ‘hostile’ and ‘objective and to the point’.
You must appreciate that there are several requests for help like yours everyday. Hundreds or even thousands a year.
Experienced collectors give their time for free to help and advise the less experienced. It’s not practical or reasonable to expect a sugar coated, extended response to all these queries. They may occasionally come across as curt, but you’re getting expert opinion here for free.

It’s interesting that it’s only people who have been told their watch isn’t quite as special as they thought that complain about the tone of the forum.
 
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I didn’t understand why this forum felt so hostile. I would advise other newcomers like me to think twice before posting. Regardless of knowledge or experience, everyone deserves respect, and discussions should be approached with positive and constructive language.
Despite all the criticism, I still love my watch—it looks stunning. It’s the perfect dress watch for my wrist, far better suited than the contemporary oversized models on the market.
I'd advise new members to not take comments about their watches personally. Whether the comments are good or bad, it doesn't reflect upon you at all.

What they are saying is that there are better examples out there, but most here agree about these old watches having some charm. In the end, if the watch is to be worn, who cares what they think. If it is to be sold, then what collectors think will simply determine what you get for it. Either way, no need to take it personally.
 
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Hey, one of my favorite watches is a franken made from cobbled factory parts- aka the SM300 watchco. Some people turn their nose up at it, but I don’t care- they’re just jealous they can’t actually go in the water with their old ones.
 
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IMO definitely a redial. The space between "swiss" and "made" is too much and the marker at 6 should be closer to the "swiss" so it could be in the dead center of "s|w|i|s|s| |m|a|d|e".
See my tresor below
I came across a Museum Jumbo on Chrono24 that also has a slightly misaligned "Swiss Made" printing. What’s your take on it?

 
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I came across a Museum Jumbo on Chrono24 that also has a slightly misaligned "Swiss Made" printing. What’s your take on it?

That is a refinished dial. I don't really look at the SWISS MADE so closely, but the overall printing is poor on both watches, the OMEGA, minute track, sub-dial, etc. There isn't a simple formula, but when you have looked at thousands of dials, it becomes more apparent. Occasionally it can be hard to tell, but not usually.
 
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I think it’s a redial. 1&2 in 12 are not on the same level. Second hand is too long. Letter “G” is strange. Minute marker at 8. When you buy from a professional seller like that, high probability that the watches are refinished.
 
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I came across a listing on Chrono24 for what appears to be the same model—an Omega De Ville Trésor 2650 with the caliber 420. This one seems to feature an untouched, original dial, at least based on my observations. What do you reckon? It is being listed there for $1.941
 
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Very poor photos, but at first glance that one appears to be yet another re-dial. And terribly over-polished, obviously.
 
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Very bad photos, but that one appears to be another poor re-dial.
It seems that everything appears poor and/or terrible to you, so I’m not surprised by your response. The listing is still available on Chrono24, and you can find more pictures there.
 
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It seems that everything appears poor and/or terrible to you, so I’m not surprised by your response. The listing is still available on Chrono24, and you can find more pictures there.
Art: When someone is a very well informed collector they have a finely attuned eye. It is worth hanging around, listening and learning. Ultimately its quicker and cheaper than the alternatives.

Of the watches I have, I love all of them. Ultimately it is me who wears them, so it does not matter what someone else thinks, as long as I am happy with my choice. It is a bit like going to the Antiques Roadshow exit tent...almost everyone learns something new about what they brought with them, and they still love it even though it is not what they thought they had.