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  1. HarryHeart

    HarryHeart Aug 1, 2020

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    Hello, everyone,
    I would be happy if you could give me your opinion about this watch that I am thinking about buying. What is your feeling for originality and the right price. Is 4.500-5.000 USD to much for it?

    The buyer says that the watch was worn as a "Sunday watch" and that it is in good condition. I have already compared all apparent features with the usual specifications and it seems to be genuine. But almost too good to be true. Am I missing something?

    The seller also offers personal delivery, but is very far away, but I can arrange a demonstration via Skype.
    What else can I look out for?

    Many thanks for your help
    Harry
     
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  2. w154

    w154 Aug 1, 2020

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    Did the seller use all those photos on the original listing, or were some sent in reply to requests for more images ? If the latter, then I’d take the fact you’ve got three different straps and different backgrounds as a red flag. Definitely take up the Skype offer if you plan to proceed.
     
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  3. airansun

    airansun Aug 1, 2020

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    Nice catch!

    The watch(es) look fine, even nice.
     
  4. Davidt

    Davidt Aug 1, 2020

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    It looks correct.

    Why do you say it seems too good to be true? I certainly wouldn't say it's a bargain.
     
  5. ClawHammer

    ClawHammer Aug 1, 2020

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    When I see threads like this, I look at the images and guess what the experts are going to say. Testing my knowledge if you like. After looking at these images I was sure the experts were going to say it’s had a re-lume on the dial as it looks very fresh with no patina at all. Also, I wondered about the case back but will now be reading up about these as I really know nothing about when the changes happened from etched hippocampus, straight writing, etc. not sure this is right on a ‘71.
     
  6. airansun

    airansun Aug 1, 2020

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    Here’s my -74, which I’ve owned since 1982. It hasn’t been relumed or any such thing.
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    That caseback is correct. B0680187-2321-4490-AA48-7B447C16D80A.jpeg
     
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  7. ClawHammer

    ClawHammer Aug 1, 2020

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    Nice watch. Yeah, I’m still learning and comparing to my ‘76 on which the lume has changed colour a lot. Is this due to yours not being used and kept boxed up and in the dark for long periods?
     
  8. RadiumWatches

    RadiumWatches Aug 1, 2020

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    Not an expert, but does the lume 3D shape seems a little flat?
     
  9. Davidt

    Davidt Aug 1, 2020

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    The lume looks perfectly fine for the period.
     
  10. Scarecrow Boat

    Scarecrow Boat Aug 1, 2020

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    I’ve heard/seen stories of watches going in safes looking new and coming out with a patinated lume color. It’s all how the tritium breaks down. Every watch will patina differently.
     
  11. airansun

    airansun Aug 1, 2020

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    Thanks. I wore it for years in the 80’s. Granted, I was a white collar worker, inside all day, but I didn’t treat it like it was precious. I swam with it repeatedly during my honeymoon in the Aegean in 1982 without a problem. It’s been serviced only twice in my care.

    It’s true that when I wasn’t wearing it, it was put away ‘in a dark place’. And, I haven’t worn it in rotation in the last ten plus years.

    I think it held up very well. It makes me wonder at the hard lives many Speedmasters on eBay seem to represent.
     
  12. HarryHeart

    HarryHeart Aug 1, 2020

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    For what price would you think it’s a bargain? To good to be true because I would say the watch looks very good, not polished, nice dial, perfect bezel etc.
     
  13. Davidt

    Davidt Aug 1, 2020

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    Dealer would not have you believe it but from -69 onwards it's not hugely difficult to find excellent Speedmasters.

    I'd say that's around to right value if unserviced and no bracelet etc. It's not a bad price, but certainly not too good to be true by any means.
     
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  14. nzshadow

    nzshadow Aug 1, 2020

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    Looks fine to me - here's my '71

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    The only thing I would say is to check those pushers carefully - one looks a little 'further out' than the other (mine had the same problem when I got it - wasn't a problem to fix).
     
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  15. HarryHeart

    HarryHeart Aug 1, 2020

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    Thanks, I hadn't noticed. But of course it's clear to see. I am curious if the seller is willing to negotiate.