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Dgercp
·I am not convinced that is corrosion and not even sure the pusher is not fixable. Overall this is a really good Ed imo.
HELP FOR AN ED WHITE ISSUES
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harrymai86
·I'm perfectly agree with you.
The whole story is that I paid an advance for it and only AFTER did the problems come up. Now I can choose whether to get the advance back and look elsewhere (but I know how difficult it is to find vintage speedmasters in good condition for an affordable price) or take the watch as it is and try to fix it. The price of the watch is set at € 13,500. What I will definitely do if I go ahead with the purchase is try to get an extra discount
What do you think?
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!Well it’s your call but the hands do look to have been relumed. It was a good sympathetic job but it makes you wonder just how untouched it really is. That combined with the pusher and service requirement would have me working on the price.
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Probo
·I will do it. Thanks for your suggestions!
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watchyouwant
·A few observations: Ed White prices outside Auction Houses will not move a lot . reason: because of the last Auctions, many more come to the Market place. Which will affect the price. Euro 13.500 is the upper price range, but with the band and endlinks just ok. Lume is not the problem. The corrosion at the case back is within expectations for that age. Easy job for Micro welding. Not expensive either. Service will be determined by a good watchmaker. Without parts Euro 500 should do it. You need to make sure, that around 6 o' clock the middle case outer rim for the rubber seal is not heavily pitted/ destroyed. That will be a problem regarding value. Ask the dealer to remove the seal and take a good close up at eye level. Not from above. Even that can be fixed with micro welding. Last: the pusher base and cap seems ok. That's all that matters. The bent pusher stem is easily replaced with any period screw in Omega pusher stem . Or just straighten the existing one. The more interesting question is, why is it bent in the first place. One answer would be a non working lever inside..... Anyway, even that will be rectified with the service
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Davidt
·It’s easy for people who already own vintage Speedmasters to say it’s too expensive/condition isn’t quite there etc.
Personally the case condition is almost as important as the dial to me and I don’t like corrosion on cases, so I’d think hard about this example and likely pass, waiting for a better example. But, I can more easily say that as I have a nice Ed White. If you’re strongly considering pushing the trigger, the issues can be rectified as described by several experienced collectors above, however, the price you’re paying here should really buy an Ed White without issues remaining to be resolved. I agree with @padders - you should negotiate harder
Personally the case condition is almost as important as the dial to me and I don’t like corrosion on cases, so I’d think hard about this example and likely pass, waiting for a better example. But, I can more easily say that as I have a nice Ed White. If you’re strongly considering pushing the trigger, the issues can be rectified as described by several experienced collectors above, however, the price you’re paying here should really buy an Ed White without issues remaining to be resolved. I agree with @padders - you should negotiate harder
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studeb
·I'm perfectly agree with you.
The whole story is that I paid an advance for it and only AFTER did the problems come up. Now I can choose whether to get the advance back and look elsewhere (but I know how difficult it is to find vintage speedmasters in good condition for an affordable price) or take the watch as it is and try to fix it. The price of the watch is set at € 13,500. What I will definitely do if I go ahead with the purchase is try to get an extra discount
What do you think?
For me the issues would be - it clearly needs a service, as Archer pointed out the timeograph was not set properly, which would make me question the watchmaker they use. If the shop said before the sale, running properly, do you believe them? Do you trust the words of the watchmaker? You do not mention if the chrono functions or not. If the pusher is bad, does it work outside of the case?
-corrosion may well be, again, the watchmakers words. But as Achim said, that can be repaired rather expertly these days.
- i cant judge the lume/patina, and that is for you to accept or reject.
It will need a service, so if you see the watch as 13.500 plus service - 1.000 including parts - as an affordable price, then okay. Maybe you can negotiate some more?
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Denarius
·It’s easy for people who already own vintage Speedmasters to say it’s too expensive/condition isn’t quite there etc.
Personally the case condition is almost as important as the dial to me and I don’t like corrosion on cases, so I’d think hard about this example and likely pass, waiting for a better example. But, I can more easily say that as I have a nice Ed White. If you’re strongly considering pushing the trigger, the issues can be rectified as described by several experienced collectors above, however, the price you’re paying here should really buy an Ed White without issues remaining to be resolved. I agree with @padders - you should negotiate harder
This is true in that for us who own a good Ed White we can knit pick a decent watch, it is a lot of money and yes there are plenty more being offered for more but that doesn't make this a bargain, you need to weigh up all the faults and costs and when its all spent and you have the watch it has to feel good.
Its not a nice feeling when a watch starts owing you more than its worth, there was a thread on here a while ago about $10k and under Ed Whites which was interesting so maybe worth searching out.
If your happy at 13,500 then I would try to get it for 12,500, you then have 1000 to spend on it, I think its nice having a watch serviced as a new owner as you know once its done its a good un!
