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Help. Can anyone identify this model?
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Edward53
·You haven't given us a lot to go on. The case could be 18ct, 14ct or 9ct gold, gold cap or gold plated in descending order of value. The crown may or may not be an Omega crown. We don't know what the movement is or its condition. There may be an inscription on the back, which usually reduces the value. You have not even told us whether it works.
First time posters are often told in "robust" terms to provide more information and do some research of their own. Rather than do that, I'll have a go at being Sherlock Holmes as there are numerous clues. The dial looks original (ie. not repainted) and in good condition. I can't see many scratches on the case, which tells me it's been cared for and that in turn tells me it may well be solid gold. The condition means the crown is more likely to be original; it certainly looks correct. From the style of the numerals it looks like a UK market piece, for which the most common gold cases are 9ct. I'll guess it's a presentation piece as these often were. The movement will be one of the 260 family. I'll go with 266.
Assuming the watch is working, my guesstimate valuation is around £500, or £600 if there's no inscription.
Do I win a coconut? Or did I just hit the back of the tent?
First time posters are often told in "robust" terms to provide more information and do some research of their own. Rather than do that, I'll have a go at being Sherlock Holmes as there are numerous clues. The dial looks original (ie. not repainted) and in good condition. I can't see many scratches on the case, which tells me it's been cared for and that in turn tells me it may well be solid gold. The condition means the crown is more likely to be original; it certainly looks correct. From the style of the numerals it looks like a UK market piece, for which the most common gold cases are 9ct. I'll guess it's a presentation piece as these often were. The movement will be one of the 260 family. I'll go with 266.
Assuming the watch is working, my guesstimate valuation is around £500, or £600 if there's no inscription.
Do I win a coconut? Or did I just hit the back of the tent?
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Davidt
·Jolly good. It's a Dennison case (meaning it's U.K. Made, not Swiss), with a 9ct Hallmark for Birmingham 1948. This goes in with the serial number being 11,xxx xxx.
As it's a U.K. cased watch, it won't have a case reference number.
It was common in the past for Omega to ship lose movements to other countries to be fitted to locally made cases in precious metal, to avoid tax. Often, these locally made cases were of inferior quality and lighter than their Swiss counterparts. Thankfully, this isn't the case with Dennison in the UK, the quality is excellent.
As it's a U.K. cased watch, it won't have a case reference number.
It was common in the past for Omega to ship lose movements to other countries to be fitted to locally made cases in precious metal, to avoid tax. Often, these locally made cases were of inferior quality and lighter than their Swiss counterparts. Thankfully, this isn't the case with Dennison in the UK, the quality is excellent.
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BertieDave
·Ok great, thanks for the info.
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!Nice looking piece, very clean, but I would have expected a flat top A and slight serifs on the text for a late 1940s Omega, particularly a Dennison one. That font may be later meaning the dial has seen some work. No Swiss made too but I guess that could be hidden under the rehaut. Still a nice thing regardless and I agree with everything posted by Edward & David above inc value.
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorThe dial has been incorrectly refinished. This will hurt the value. The value of a watch like this is mostly in the gold content of the case plus a nominal amount for the movement.
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nkb
·The dial has been incorrectly refinished. This will hurt the value. The value of a watch like this is mostly in the gold content of the case plus a nominal amount for the movement.
gatorcpa
May I ask how much a nominal amount would be for the movement? I'm sure it depends on the movement but roughly speaking ? This info is good for estimating what a good price would be.
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nkb
·I know it's a long shot, but just inherited this and wondered what model it was and approximate value. I've not idea how old it is, and the strap is clearly not the original.
That is a lovely inheritance! It was very well looked after indeed!
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amcclell
·Lovely watch and don't worry about the refinished dial. As a collector, that would be an issue but as an inheritance, it is just part of the story. Looks like a 30T2 movement which is a classic.
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Edward53
·It's my opinion that the dial is not refinished. It looks too good to me and that pointed A is often seen on similar dials. The anomaly here is the 1948 case and movement with a dial that is usually seen about ten years later, which is why I thought the movement would be a 266. Either the watch was assembled in the late 1950s using an earlier NOS case and movement, or the original dial was damaged badly enough to need replacing. Water damage is possible but given the condition of the movement some kind of accident to the dial seems more likely. Assuming of course that such dials definitely weren't around in 1948....
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorIt's my opinion that the dial is not refinished.
In addition, there is some bleed over of the lower minutes register into the sub-dial. The seconds register should be printed much farther out towards the edge.
Omega didn’t have the most consistent quality during this period, but they were never this bad.
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!I respectfully disagree. The quality of the printing and surface of the dial doesn’t look quite right to me.
In addition, there is some bleed over of the lower minutes register into the sub-dial. The seconds register should be printed much farther out towards the edge.
Omega didn’t have the most consistent quality during this period, but they were never this bad.
gatorcpa
Also, where is 'Swiss Made'? It wouldn't normally be that far from the sub dial, and it seems you can see the dial edge so it looks like it isn't there. It always is on original dials.
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