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  1. nock Feb 7, 2019

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    Hello from Guildford England everyone,

    I eventually got round to joining the forum, having owned 2 vintage Moonwatches for over 10 years. I bought a contemporary third last week.

    Fascinated by the Moonwatch story and its link to my childhood excitement around the space program, I decided for my 40th birthday I would buy a Speedmaster. After a little research, I bought what I thought was a 1967 Speedy with an 861 calibre movement (from my birth year) for just over £600 from the US, but soon realised that I didn't have the watch that the astronauts wore. With renewed enthusiasm I sought out and eventually bought what I thought was a 1965 Speedy with a 321 movement for just over £1000 from the UK.

    Well, 10 years on and it turns out things were not as they seemed - the 1967 Speedmaster actually had the serial number 30,995,XXX was a 145.022-69 with a B1 movement and was made in 1970, but otherwise the watch was age correct as far as I could see (I eventually bought the Moonwatch Only book and everything checks out).

    But the real conundrum was the Speedy I thought was from 1965 - the serial number 19,584,XXX means it is a 105.002-62 and was made in 1962 it appears to have an A1 (1st Gen 321) movement, however the case, dial, hands and caseback are 145.012-67 and correspondingly age correct. So what have I got?

    A Frankenwatch?

    An Omega Service butchering?

    Should I call it a 105.002-62 or a 145.012-67?

    I've attached some images for your interest - any suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

    Thanks
     
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  2. Vitezi Feb 7, 2019

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    Hello, and welcome to the forum! You will probably get a better response on your Speedmaster if you repost your questions into the Vintage Omega forum with a post title that says "Please help me with my Speedmaster conundrum" or something like that. :) For many chronographs, it was common for manufacturers to first mass-produce movements and then case them into watches at a much later date. But the minor variations in Speedmasters are well documented, and yours indeed raises some questions. In the meantime, take some time to review this site for details: http://speedmaster101.com/

    And be sure to post plenty of pictures! :thumbsup:
     
  3. nock Feb 7, 2019

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    Thanks for the advice Vitezi - I'll repost it :)