Hello a little help assessing/identifying two recent purchases

Walrus

Just doing my job ma’am. Really the comfort of the strap got me a little. I would definitely pick one up for one of the many I’m scratching my head trying to pick something out for. But yes it was a good day. My new compadre was wearing the 50 fathoms he “picked up last week” which is such a nice looking watch it made me laugh. He just has crazy stuff I won’t bother going into. Cool guy though obviously lives in a different sphere of the universe than I but I certainly don’t find him to snob like or whatever. Damn that travel case he had has so many nice things in it. Oh well I’m pleased with what I have, really just looking for one more thing then I can start collecting hot wheels cars or something different I’m getting bored with watches.

nicks

I’m a huge fan of the pie pans and that likely distorted my comment. It’s a great pickup 😉

omegawatchlover

Both terrific watches! I think the constellation is a dome dial 14902 since the dial does not have "officially certified," otherwise it's a 168.005 that has that (doubt it).

Walrus

Ah “goodish?” What makes you say that, it’s cool just wondering why you choose that assessment

Dr.Sascha

Pretty nice pickups, and great that you got the BOR bracelet for the Connie. PMC gave a good assessment.

The Cosmic probably has a 565 inside, hence the quickset date.

Peemacgee

it should be a 14902 -so pre ‘63, but I think there have been uncommon 168.005s seen with the ‘missing text’ dial. (It would still be no later than ‘63)

it’ll have a cal561 under the hood.
The cyclops crystal is unusual.
The BOR is a nice bonus.

regarding the condition,
the dial looks a bit grubby which is unusual for Connies - I wonder if this would clean?
The case is okay but looks like it may have lost the definition of the facets on the lugs.
the BOR has some stretch (as most do)

still a nice watch though IMHO

ngo516

Elon, don’t be modest.
I have no clue how to open ‘em, but that cosmic is a beauty.

Edit:
wait wait. I figured it out. You need tool 107.

Walrus

Ya I have a Connie with a 565 quickset

Walrus

And I agree with your assessment on the dial it certainly isn’t pristine has a bit of a “dirty” look to it but still pretty solid. For its age I think it held up pretty well. I don’t think I’d get into trying to clean it. I’ve seen some disaster stories of people trying to do so. I’ve come across some pretty yellowed dials in seamasters over the years, this is nowhere near as bad as I’ve seen on some older watches

Peemacgee

I do hope not.
- but I’m sure you mean 564 in the Connie 😉

MtV

I was just gonna write exactly the same. Might be removable with some air, without any harm to the dial.

A 9-row BoR with 70 end links might be a better fit, by the way, if you’d like to wear it on a bracelet. Not much of a difference in price, I think - you might be able to trade them 1:1.

Definitely nice finds, hope you’ll enjoy them. 😀

Archer

Yes, Tool 107 for these:







The split stem is removed by pull the crown out firmly. You then press the movement portion of the stem back in (it will have been pulled out to the farthest position when removing the outer part), then remove the crystal, turn the movement CCW slightly, and it can be removed.

Cheers, Al

MtV

Would he want it back right now or is he asking for dibs should you ever want to sell it at some point in the future?

Walrus

Ha ha yup my bad. I am very far from a watch expert one digit off is actually pretty good for me. Now I need to look up the difference betwixt the two. Just for my own knowledge, that’s how we learn right. Gives me something different to read about anyway I read way to much psychology BS

Peemacgee

here you go.....
http://users.tpg.com.au/mondodec/movement3.pdf

The 565 is a quickset movement like the 564 but the 564 is chronometer rated.