Have we finally gone over the edge?

Dan S

energy-efficient direct air carbon capture technologies,

Syzygy

Isn't that known as a 'tree' ?

gbesq

While I agree with your general premise, I hope that you’re not saying that the tornado that touched down in NJ yesterday was the first in the state’s history. That is certainly not correct as there is a well documented history of tornadoes in the Garden State going back to at least 1835. Most have fallen into the EF0 category and have posed relatively little risk, but they are not infrequent occurrences.

Dan S

I hear you. I think that most of us find ourselves reflecting on this more often each year, and unfortunately it seems very hard to escape the impacts, both the gradual average changes as well as the more frequent extreme events. It's harder and harder to ignore even for people who would like to ignore it. I interact very frequently with people in the oil and gas industry and the Department of Energy, and attitudes have shifted markedly over just the past 5 years.

Sadly, it seems overwhelmingly likely that it will only get worse in the short term, so we probably need to be increasingly proactive about preparing for extreme events.

lillatroll

I think the science suggests otherwise. We are killing our planet and if we don't change our attitudes the planet will kill us. Perhaps that sounds dramatic but I believe that to be the outcome.

Syrte

Very interesting, could that lead to accept major policy changes and if so which?

pdxleaf

Duluth, Minnesota. Won't be the butt coldest place in the continental states and will grow crops.

Worst place in States: anywhere fed by the Colorado river (don't buy a new house in Phoenix.)

If you aren't worried you aren't paying attention, IMO. Most of what we are currently experiencing was predicted, just not this soon. More carbon in the air would hold more moisture, making for less rain but more intense and heavier waterfall when it let loose. Jet streams would likely change, shifting moisture. Oceans would warm, changing the circulation of water from the bottom to the top, as well as in the oceans. That's what makes science fun! You get to see what happens.

Permafrost is melting, releasing more carbon. Atlantic currents slowing. Arctic passage above Canada has been open for years when previously frozen over. Lake Powell and Meade are pushing 40% low. Hurricanes are more intense because of warmer oceans and more carbon that holds more water. That isn't going away so that means powerful hurricanes are here to stay. Etc, etc...This is just the quick snappy reply to a watch forum.

IMHO, there is enough brain power to stave off extinction. But the economic powers are more powerful than the political powers needed to implement the technological changes, not to mention coordination of any strategic plan. Climate change is too big for many people. Consider vaccines for a virus that you can reach out and touch. People still deny what is right in front of them. Snake oil peddlers push false cures to line their own pockets. All of that does not bode well for stopping what is increasingly a runaway freight train.

This is my opinion to a question that was asked by the OP. I did not offer this without prompting. I did not directly quote another member. I have no problem with differing opinions. What the future holds no one knows. But I don't understand how anyone does not see the correlation between the rapidly changing climate and emissions from human activity. How bad is it? Probably related to whether you are 50 to 70 years old or 15 to 35 years old. (I am in the former group but have kids in the latter.)

Have to leave on a happy note. Random watch picture (not from today) 😀😀

ATWG

ruminants of hurricane