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Cozmopak
·Any thoughts on the brand? Current owners? Several of their watches have piqued my interest and it seems like there are ardent followers.
H. Moser
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NickC
·I really fancy a Swiss Alp, just to have my friends think I've finally given up my hatred of the Apple Watch. I think the Moser Endeavour range is beautiful too.
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Larry S
··Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.I love em ... the prices though.....
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Evitzee
·Very nice watches, but they don't hold their value at all. If you can get one at 50% or so of MSRP (new) you are ok, but don't pay anywhere near list price.
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Cozmopak
·Yeah, the secondary market for these are WAY less than MSRP.
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MPWATCH
·Super high quality, just had a friend purchase a 1200-0400 which is the rose gold center seconds automatic....from a far it's nothing special, but under the loupe you can tell it oozes craftsmanship in every corner. That's my favorite model because it's 40MM and automatic. Once they go pre-owned they take a hit. In conclusion, awesome brand with lots of top notch watches.
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Cozmopak
·Is it true that their escapements need to be replaced at every servicing? I know that they’re modular.
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Croc
·Is it true that their escapements need to be replaced at every servicing? I know that they’re modular.
They don’t need to be replaced, but my understanding is that they are modular so they can be replaced to make servicing easier.
Hodinkee describe it in their review of the perpetual calendar
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-h-moser-endeavour-perpetual-calendar-review
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nanjingcigaretes
·Very simple looking watches but the detailed quality and the finishing are amazing
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerThey don’t need to be replaced, but my understanding is that they are modular so they can be replaced to make servicing easier.
Hodinkee describe it in their review of the perpetual calendar
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-h-moser-endeavour-perpetual-calendar-review
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-h-moser-endeavour-perpetual-calendar-review
"I will say, however, that in some way, it is just a hair off-putting knowing that my watch will come back to me with an entirely new escapement after a service."
This is a statement from someone who no clue how watches are serviced in any sort of service center setting. There are several brands who replace entire movements at service. Even in a "regular" service, watchmakers at service centers aren't replacing parts individually, so if for example there is a bad staff on the balance, they don't disassemble the balance, remove the old staff, fit a new staff, and assemble the balance - they just grab an entirely new balance assembly from the drawer and install it. Same this with mainspring barrels - they replace the whole assembly, rather than just the mainspring, and some mainspring barrels (Rolex 3235 for example) aren't made to be used again at all. Replacing this escapement module is just another version of what companies do regularly all the time.
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Cozmopak
·"I will say, however, that in some way, it is just a hair off-putting knowing that my watch will come back to me with an entirely new escapement after a service."
This is a statement from someone who no clue how watches are serviced in any sort of service center setting. There are several brands who replace entire movements at service. Even in a "regular" service, watchmakers at service centers aren't replacing parts individually, so if for example there is a bad staff on the balance, they don't disassemble the balance, remove the old staff, fit a new staff, and assemble the balance - they just grab an entirely new balance assembly from the drawer and install it. Same this with mainspring barrels - they replace the whole assembly, rather than just the mainspring, and some mainspring barrels (Rolex 3235 for example) aren't made to be used again at all. Replacing this escapement module is just another version of what companies do regularly all the time.
Is this type of approach to servicing true for smaller independent watchmakers like Voutilainen, Gauthier, etc?
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Braindrain
·"I will say, however, that in some way, it is just a hair off-putting knowing that my watch will come back to me with an entirely new escapement after a service."
This is a statement from someone who no clue how watches are serviced in any sort of service center setting. There are several brands who replace entire movements at service. Even in a "regular" service, watchmakers at service centers aren't replacing parts individually, so if for example there is a bad staff on the balance, they don't disassemble the balance, remove the old staff, fit a new staff, and assemble the balance - they just grab an entirely new balance assembly from the drawer and install it. Same this with mainspring barrels - they replace the whole assembly, rather than just the mainspring, and some mainspring barrels (Rolex 3235 for example) aren't made to be used again at all. Replacing this escapement module is just another version of what companies do regularly all the time.
A watch blog writing about stuff they have no idea about nor bother to research?!?!
Say it ain't so!!!
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerPerhaps the author of that comment mistakenly equated Moser to one of these smaller artisanal makers who finish each of their components to a very high level.
Possibly, I don't know. When they review Tudors, do they lament that fact that Tudor swaps the entire movement? I'm asking because I don't know - I only read the site when someone posts a link that seems interesting.
If they don't do that (and my gut is that they don't) then this seems somewhat odd to talk about one small section of a movement being replaced, and ignoring whole movements being replaced.
How about the selective assembly done at many places during service, where a watchmaker doesn't really even service the movement - it flows down an assembly line where people hired off the street and trained are given a single task to do, then it moves on. The watchmaker does the final tweaks, but the rest is done by factory workers.
I guess one could be concerned about a lot of things within a service setting, and hey his feelings are his feelings, but to me this specific thing is a pretty small potatoes issue in the big picture.
Cheers, Al
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zobbified
·Thanks Croc.
Was considering the blue as well but it felt like just another blue dialed time piece. The green is very unique.
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Dimitris
·I think they are Haute Horologie and you get so much watch for your money , seeing the prices of them rising after years.
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