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Bushido
·That is simply fantastic RJ, congratulations!
Growth of the Speedy Tuesday Community
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Vulffi
·Great ! Keep upp the good work .
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STANDY
··schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector@Robert-Jan it has been a pleasure reading your stuff through the years. Your connection to the watch community and informative articles is what keeps you popular with many.
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efauser
·I won't be happy for you until I know if I will get one or not. If I don't, I think you know my answer.
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Superdoc
·This is great... You know how I feel about the current climate of Bloggers... and take issue with a site like Hodinkee selling watches...
This would be like if I, as a physician, was able to sell drugs... Could you imagine the glowing reviews I would give of all the drugs that people could buy in my clinic?
Bloggers started as "one of us".. passionate watch lovers... Hodinkee has sol its soul by betraying the trust that readers had in them (had as past-tense).
You and Fratello have always maintained that you aare still one of us, and I have enjoyed your site that is not afraid to publish the negative side of things when it makes sense to report it.
Your integrity will be rewarded in spades in the long game, even if you sacrifice short term profit.
Keep up the stellar work!
This would be like if I, as a physician, was able to sell drugs... Could you imagine the glowing reviews I would give of all the drugs that people could buy in my clinic?
Bloggers started as "one of us".. passionate watch lovers... Hodinkee has sol its soul by betraying the trust that readers had in them (had as past-tense).
You and Fratello have always maintained that you aare still one of us, and I have enjoyed your site that is not afraid to publish the negative side of things when it makes sense to report it.
Your integrity will be rewarded in spades in the long game, even if you sacrifice short term profit.
Keep up the stellar work!
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M'Bob
·Could you imagine the glowing reviews I would give of all the drugs that people could buy in my clinic?
Why would you do that, if you didn't believe in their efficacy? The mere presence of a situation that makes it easier to take advantage of people does not automatically mean that it will happen. That relies on the compromise of personal ethics.
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SpeedyPhill
·No, sorry. You'll have to wait till March 23rd.
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tyrantlizardrex
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Agreed, but some bloggers just bring facts and photos: MWU http://moonwatchuniverse.tumblr.com/archive
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Dude, you've spammed every thread for three days, we get it, you write a blog, behaving in the way you are will not get you the exposure that you crave though. So pack it in. 👎
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Robert-Jan
··#SpeedyTuesdayThis is great... You know how I feel about the current climate of Bloggers... and take issue with a site like Hodinkee selling watches...
This would be like if I, as a physician, was able to sell drugs... Could you imagine the glowing reviews I would give of all the drugs that people could buy in my clinic?
Bloggers started as "one of us".. passionate watch lovers... Hodinkee has sol its soul by betraying the trust that readers had in them (had as past-tense).
You and Fratello have always maintained that you aare still one of us, and I have enjoyed your site that is not afraid to publish the negative side of things when it makes sense to report it.
Your integrity will be rewarded in spades in the long game, even if you sacrifice short term profit.
Keep up the stellar work!
Thanks, that means a lot to me. Some times it is quite difficult to survive and deal with brands that only want to work with titles that are 'on their hands'. I also don't want to bad mouth Hodinkee (I consider Ben a good friend), I think they need to do what they think is good for them. I also think they do not take money to write reviews by the way. Others do (it is even in their media kits that they offer to brands), which I think on the long run, is not sustainable. Editorials should not be influenced by a brand or the sponsorship of a brand.
It remains to be a difficult field. I am glad that we have a small team that takes care of the commercial side of things so I don't have to have a double role. I think this way it stays as clean as possible. In the end, this is our business and we have to earn money (it is otherwise difficult to make a living 😉) but it is all about the way how to do it and keep our integrity.
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MaiLollo
·Congrats, big fan of the FW website! Your straps in depth reviews are also very cool, I've gotten into GLC Straps thanks to you 😉
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tyrantlizardrex
·Editorials should not be influenced by a brand or the sponsorship of a brand.
Which is exactly how things go when you act as a journalist, rather than a PR person.
You and the team at Fratello are good Journalists RJ.
And huge geeks. 👍
Massively huge geeks. 😁
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Superdoc
·Why would you do that, if you didn't believe in their efficacy? The mere presence of a situation that makes it easier to take advantage of people does not automatically mean that it will happen. That relies on the compromise of personal ethics.
I agree the opportunity to take advantage of someone doesn't mean it will happen, but you cannot be so naive to ignore the fact that it often does.
If Fratello site started selling Speedmasters... wouldn't it give off a sense of "Advertorials" more than journal articles?
Anyway, this thread is about Robert-Jan success and accomplishments! Something well earned by sticking to his ethics, and staying a watch journalist.
Cream rises to the top!
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M'Bob
·I agree the opportunity to take advantage of someone doesn't mean it will happen, but you cannot be so naive to ignore the fact that it often does.
Hardly naive. But perhaps more foolishly optimistic that the world hasn't gone to such shit that every priest abuses kids in their parish, every worker doesn't steal from the company when no one's looking, and every stepfather doesn't fondle his stepdaughter.
Like you, in health care. 27 years. Beware of the disease called creeping pessimism.
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micampe
·This would be like if I, as a physician, was able to sell drugs... Could you imagine the glowing reviews I would give of all the drugs that people could buy in my clinic?
I'll judge the content provided for what it is. I enjoy RJ's articles a lot, it's true that it feels more genuine and more for enthusiasts, but Hodinkee has some good content too, and I think that the naive people are the ones attacking only them for these initiatives while everyone else is also living on advertising and brands support.
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Riviera Paradise
·I was reasonably OK with the Hodinkee shop selling vintage watches and thought that it was pretty a good initiative, especially for the novice vintage buyer (though some OF experts have caught some pretty serious errors in their technical evaluations).
The vintage e-business effort represented a clear air gap from the editorial business of new modern watch reviews. Where I think they might have crossed the line is recently offering modern Hodinkee branded LE watches for sale...can we really trust Hodinkee reviews to be objective on Zenith and VC releases this year?
Before anyone raises this point...I do trust @Robert-Jan to maintain an objective editorial view on new Omega releases after the #Speedy Tuesday initiative. Fratellowatches editorial content is clearly technical and emotive and never commercial / regurgitated press release branding speak. Robert engages with the WIS community forums in open / transparent conversation. All goodness to me😀
The vintage e-business effort represented a clear air gap from the editorial business of new modern watch reviews. Where I think they might have crossed the line is recently offering modern Hodinkee branded LE watches for sale...can we really trust Hodinkee reviews to be objective on Zenith and VC releases this year?
Before anyone raises this point...I do trust @Robert-Jan to maintain an objective editorial view on new Omega releases after the #Speedy Tuesday initiative. Fratellowatches editorial content is clearly technical and emotive and never commercial / regurgitated press release branding speak. Robert engages with the WIS community forums in open / transparent conversation. All goodness to me😀
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jepoole
·Congrats @Robert-Jan on your continued success, and thank you for helping to bring the #speedytuesday LE to life.
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M'Bob
·...can we really trust Hodinkee reviews to be objective on Zenith and VC releases this year?
I'm sorry, but this "us vs. them" mentality" rubs me the wrong way. Objective? Are these things ever objective? Why don't we wait for a clearly egregious review of one of these brands before we proactively question their integrity.
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micampe
·can we really trust Hodinkee reviews to be objective on Zenith and VC releases this year?
I can tell when an article is a press release with only specs info in it and when it gives me some interesting information. Sure, a year ago they had an article on the VC that they later put for sale, so what? The article was interesting, it was not pure fluff. If you enjoyed the article back then, does it lose its value now?
As I'm sure Robert-Jan can tell us, this is a tough job in a though field. If their way of making it alive is providing me interesting content that works as advertisement a year later that's fine by me.
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brunik
·Nice one!!! thank you!
