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Good old BBC Antiques Roadshow 5513

Jonathan40
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Anyone else see January 17th 2021 Antiques Roadshow with the Military 5513 that was pre T marked for ministry property. Just a dash line where they were trying replacement material for Lume.
Never seen one or heard about them before.
 
simonsays
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Yes, nice to see and quite emotional for the family.

Underline dials are not military, it was just an indication that it was not a Radium dial. Pre T as in Swiss T not circle T.
 
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Antique Roadshows Watch finds are made for TV fakery, I dont bother looking anymore
 
Dan S
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Jonathan40 Jonathan40
Anyone else see January 17th 2021 Antiques Roadshow with the Military 5513 that was pre T marked for ministry property. Just a dash line where they were trying replacement material for Lume.
Never seen one or heard about them before.

I didn't see the episode, but you seem to be describing an underline dial. They are transitional dials between radium and the T-marked dials, but have nothing to do with military issue per se.
 
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We are banned from watching the BBC Antiques Roadshow on this side of the pond.

At least until it shows up on YouTube in a few weeks.
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simonsays
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Antique Roadshows Watch finds are made for TV fakery, I dont bother looking anymore

An interesting theory, is it just the watch stuff they use actors for or is it all faked like the moon landings?
 
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On the human side it would have been better for family if the watch had been valued at £500.
1. His son could wear it and keep his memory of his father.
2.not be tempted to sell it.
3.have little interest from other family members about what to do with it.
4.not get his arm and jaw broken by some thug trying to steal it from him.( this did happen to a friend of mine in London) if he decides to use it daily.
 
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Great story as his dad was a Royal Navy SAR diver who had to be rescued himself in the rescue attempt of a crashed jet and SAR helicopter !
He was also seen in this 1966 Royal Navy PR photo with a Westland Whirlwind helicopter hovering behind him...
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I didn't see the episode, but you seem to be describing an underline dial. They are transitional dials between radium and the T-marked dials, but have nothing to do with military issue per se.
Thanks for explaining that. And you also Simonsays.
 
simonsays
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It was a lovely watch with fabulous provenance. Here is a couple of pics of the watch in question

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The underline gilt dial

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The original rivet bracelet was also present.
 
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simonsays simonsays
An interesting theory, is it just the watch stuff they use actors for or is it all faked like the moon landings?
LOL, as a collector of time-period photographs (yes as a kid I wrote to NASA Houston and StarCity Moscow), this was an interesting story substantiated with several 1960s Royal Navy photos as this Rolex Submariner 5513 was a 1964 Underline dial version... what a provenance !
A true military use Rolex Submariner... I think MilSubs are the 6538, 5512, 5513 and 5517, but this was a personal Rolex wristwatch !
 
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gatorcpa gatorcpa
We are banned from watching the BBC Antiques Roadshow on this side of the pond.

At least until it shows up on YouTube in a few weeks.
gatorcpa
I've seen several antiques roadshows on the educational channels in East Tennessee in recent months. I seldom watch these though.
I've always had my doubts about the inflated estimates. Of course most appraisers do say that's what they would value the item for insurance purposes. The insurance companies can then charge higher rates and in case a house burns down the owner can claim the outrageous estimate as a loss rather than what they'd actually get for the piece at auction.

What a Japanese Billionaire might be willing to pay to complete a collection is unlikely to be what you'd actually get for the piece on the open market.
 
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Not sure how long it’ll last, but this can be seen on YouTube at the moment.


Starts at 51m20s.
 
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He was also seen in this 1966 Royal Navy PR photo with a Westland Whirlwind helicopter hovering behind him...
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What helicopter ?
 
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Underline gilt dial, with that kind of provenance, I think that is bang on.

Also now that watch on antique roadshow; I can hear the bro bragging now!
 
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Was a lovely watch alright, you could see how much it meant to the guy that brought it on.
 
Dan S
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£50-£60k for a non military5513.. Really??

Keep in mind they are usually giving insurance appraisals when it is an heirloom piece.
 
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