I’m always unsure about Antiques roadshow after the conspiracy around the Daytona video
I love Antiques Roadshow. An essential part of a satisfactory Sunday evening, along with Countryfile. 😀
This was the third Speedmaster they have featured in this season of shows!
I think the tatty Ultraman maybe went to the wrong auction house rather than being massively overvalued on the show (though their estimate was punchy.)
Be nice to see a bit more variety of fine watches being brought along to the show.
I thought it was a 145.012-67 but was only watching on a kitchen TV 😉
It didn't look in great shape; pretty faded bezel and gaps in the lume on the hands, but I thought £5k was a bit pessimistic.
neilfrancis said:I think the tatty Ultraman maybe went to the wrong auction house rather than being massively overvalued on the show (though their estimate was punchy.)
Just checking MWO (how sad are people like us), of course, the short/fat pushers give it away as a 105.012-66HF (as the principal distinction between the 105.012-66 and the 145.012-67 is the height of the pusher cap). Looking at SM101's price chart, a Poor-Fair 105.012-66 would be $5-7K so maybe the £5k estimate for this one isn't too far off the mark.
Still, matey-boy only paid £5 for it at a fair, and immediately declined an offer of £50 from someone who saw him buy it.
You might well be right; if it had gone to Bonhams or Christies etc, they may have had more interest... assuming they didn't turn it down in the first place given it's condition.
Gardiner Houlgate did auction it at £31k, against the estimate on the show of £30-40k that the expert gave it. Same guy that evaluated the one from the OP. Made a better fist of it than the other one when the "expert" got derailed by the 1175 bracelet 😁
The £31k was inclusive of buyer premium, the hammer price was £25k. Provincial houses like GH and Fellows routinely charge a seller fee too, often 10-20%. This means the UM seller may have taken home as little as £20k. I had a chat with Mr Fruit about this, it seems the first tier houses usually only charge a buyer fee so are a much better option for selling something like that.
The bastards cheat, they get a pre viewing then research the item, usually ring a real expert, usually an auction house, then present as their own.
I said the same thing last night. It's good they've recognised the popularity of vintage watches - some of which would simply have been second hand, nearly new watches when the program first started, and started to include them in the show.
Hopefully we'll see a few other interesting models in the future.
