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Goldengines, Silvergines, Frankengines?

  1. S.H. Feb 3, 2019

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    I just snagged this one, because somehow the case, dial and movement combination really speaks to me. It rarely happens, but usually, this is when I make some mistake. My brain has a "hooo, shiny! must have" moment and all caution is thrown into the wind. ::facepalm2::

    Here are the listing pictures, if somebody wants some more I'll take some as soon as I have it.

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    How am I supposed to resist having a sharp case like this? ::love:: And this is some nice dial too. And yeah, the screws...

    So, I was quite happy with myself until I realized that a "Goldengines" dial should be fitted to a 18k case, an SS case should house a "Silvergines" movement. :confused: Am I right? I'm no Longines expert...
     
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  2. S.H. Feb 4, 2019

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    As I am searching for references on the Silvergines/Goldengines, I found this ad posted by @Tony C. some years back on another site. I'm copying it there for reference.

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  3. ahsposo Most fun screen name at ΩF Feb 4, 2019

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    It's still a nice looking watch.
     
  4. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Feb 4, 2019

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    Just to add to the confusion, there were different names in different markets, as well. Both Golden and Silver Arrow, for example.

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  5. S.H. Feb 4, 2019

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    I'll ask the nice folks at Longines. If the records shows it is 100% original it will be an awesome surprise. I don't know what to think now, because if the dial was damaged and swapped, putting a Goldengines dial (rare if I believe what I have read) in a Silvergines case does not make much sense: finding a spare Silvergines dial should have been much easier. Maybe a Goldengines case could have been scrapped for gold and a Silvergines service case has been used.

    But it is a nice looking package indeed :cool:
     
  6. omegastar Feb 4, 2019

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    Your post reminded me that a long time ago I used to sell watches on eBay under the name « omegines » which I once saw on a watch. I regret not buying the watch...
     
  7. S.H. Feb 14, 2019

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    It arrived safely, the internals are in better shape than expected (only one screw missing?!).

    I just sent all the info to Longines, we'll see what comes out. I bet its recased, but the case is in good shape and the watch is overall ::love:::

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  8. fbf Feb 15, 2019

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    Very interesting. Please keep us updated.
     
  9. S.H. Feb 22, 2019

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    Well, I'll be damned!

    Here is what Longines says:
    So it turns out to be fully original, this is a [very] nice surprise. ::psy::I read here on the forum that they were discontinued near the end of the 50s... Under the caseback reference (9100-6) there is "1962" engraved, I thought it was the case serial not the production date. Is it common to have such a clear date stamp?


    BTW I added a cool buckle (period correct?):

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    I will now have to find a better suited strap.
     
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  10. S.H. Feb 23, 2019

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    For reference (now that the server is upgraded with some capacity for more pictures :D), some adverts I found on the internet, all related to the ref. 9100 (Silver/Golden Arrow, Silver/Goldengines):

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