FOUND: Nina Rindt's Nina Rindt (UG 885103/02)

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·Mar 23, 2020

My UG Nina serial number project (https://alphahands.com/faq/universal-geneve-nina-rindt-serial-number-project/) wouldn't be complete without the 885103/02 owned by Nina Rindt, would it? So now it's added, along with a brief history and images (and also what happened to the Heuer 2446M owned by Jochen Rindt).

Enjoy and stay healthy, everyone.
https://alphahands.com/faq/nina-rindts-universal-geneve-885103-02/

 

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Diabolik

·Mar 23, 2020

I believe that the early 22706 came with that hand combination and had applied steel hour markers ...

Nina's is a very rare watch indeed !

 

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·Mar 23, 2020

Nina's watch is an early serial, though not the lowest seen, though the only early one with these hands (at least that I have found).
As you mention, we do see these hands on other UG's.

 

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Diabolik

·Mar 23, 2020

We do see them on other UGs of the era that have the v72 or caliber 130 movement ...

 

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ClipperGMT

·Mar 25, 2020

amazing! not at all what i expected

 

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wbfondren

·Mar 25, 2020

This should be a huge story!! Well done for tracking it down 👍

 

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·Apr 3, 2020

Thanks - @ClipperGMT @wbfondren @44x16

 

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mr.a

·Apr 4, 2020

@subregister Congrats on this incredible research !

 

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Florent

·Apr 5, 2020

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My UG Nina serial number project (https://alphahands.com/faq/universal-geneve-nina-rindt-serial-number-project/) wouldn't be complete without the 885103/02 owned by Nina Rindt, would it? So now it's added, along with a brief history and images (and also what happened to the Heuer 2446M owned by Jochen Rindt).

Enjoy and stay healthy, everyone.
https://alphahands.com/faq/nina-rindts-universal-geneve-885103-02/

awesome research... thanks for your investment !

 

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nzshadow

·Apr 5, 2020

Phenomenal. Utterly phenomenal.

 

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Diabolik

·Apr 6, 2020

And perhaps the handset on this exotic (which has always puzzled me) can be explained as an early 22706 - 1 or 2 with a later exotic dial ...

 

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_awatchsnob_

·Apr 21, 2020

Thank you for sharing!

 

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fizz

·Aug 5, 2023

Hello everyone,

I am posting on this existing thread instead of creating a new one.

I've been looking at the Nina's recently and have found a few that seems to exhibit characteristics of both the MK1 and MK2 dials. This seems to be the case for both the traditional white panda Nina and also the reverse panda Evil Nina.

Take a look at these examples (both from analogshift curiously, though I've seen it at a couple of other dealer sites as well):

My question is, did UG actually create such transitional models - specifically those that had the applied UG logo, silver hour/minute hands and Swiss T from the MK1 but the thick baton style chronograph sub-hands more commonly found on the MK2 dials?

Perhaps the UG project maestro @subregister or anyone else with knowledge and insight can comment on the validity of these.

"Transitional" UG Nina:

Links to the original listing here.

"Transitional" Evil UG Nina:

Links to the original listing here.

 

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Woops

·Aug 16, 2023

fizz

My question is, did UG actually create such transitional models - specifically those that had the applied UG logo, silver hour/minute hands and Swiss T from the MK1 but the thick baton style chronograph sub-hands more commonly found on the MK2 dials?

Categorically “yes’. The Nina and Evil Nina Compaxes appear to have been built in three distinct configurations, not two. The two watches you have highlighted aren’t “transitional” models in my opinion, they are their own recognised Nina Mk II class.

The UG ‘Ten’ book does a terrific job of illustrating the three Nina iterations. The Mk I, II and III all appear within tight serial band ranges and should be pretty easy to check if you have both the book and the watch reference to hand.

 

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Diabolik

·Aug 16, 2023

The book is incomplete. There are more than three evil nina references and i believe that also applies to the nina. There is a fourth. the 22607 with applied batons and dagger hands ...

 

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fizz

·Aug 16, 2023

Thanks for your replies. I don't have the UG ten book but there is an MK2 (or what I called "transitional") piece that is available (and potentially being offered) with serial no: 2412XXX. Not sure if that checks out right but seems to be within "acceptable" range.

 

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Redwes25

·Aug 17, 2023

Diabolik

The book is incomplete. There are more than three evil nina references and i believe that also applies to the nina. There is a fourth. the 22607 with applied batons and dagger hands ...

This version of evil Nina is also accepted - dagger sub dial hands but without the applied logo.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/universal-geneve-compax-885103-01-evil-nina.119627/

[URL]https://www.analogshift.com/products/universal-geneve-compax-ref-885103-01-evil-nina[/URL]

 

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fizz

·Aug 19, 2023

I think what you've linked to is generally considered the so called "MK1" dial of the Evil Nina's.

 

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·Aug 24, 2023

@fizz "Maestro"...I like that! 😁 (of course doesn't always tie to correct/complete knowledge by any stretch!)

The combination you are talking about is fairly distinct, and in the range 2453xxx (after the 241xxxx displaying thin hands, and prior to the SWISS T 25 and thickest hands at 2569xxx). I have not personally seen an applied logo 241xxxx with either midsize or thick hands, though not to say it isn't correct (well...I would be surprised if thick hands were correct)
I can't speak to the Evil Nina...perhaps one day, however (I'll keep learning here at OF 👍)

I should probably have called that out on alphahands.com - it's a good question, and I'll add it to the site. Thanks for the question.

 

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Mazoue

·Aug 24, 2023

I'm afraid I only have the following two images.

The first is from the 1969 catalogue. The second is from the 1973/74 catalogue.