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Thanks for your input guys. I did indeed reject it. Water damage twice.. there was no chance i was having it back. The long and short is i upgraded it to 215.90.46.51.99.001, the newer titanium version.

The whole chirade was a bit of a nightmare. I ended up paying an additional £1,300 for the upgrade. Dealing with the UK brand director who i can only liken to Lord Lucan took what seemed forever and for my troubles offerd me 20% discount.. which in the 11th hour actually turned out to be 20% off the difference in the current price of mine at £5550 and £7100 which was a bit naughty as that was only disclosed post calulation and led me to believe it would have been off the rrp.

Apparently as mine is nolonger ‘current stock’ they suggested getting me one from a boutique which i also rejected as i didnt want a stock item that had been in a cabinet for ages. They then suggested an upgrade which after a weekends thought i accepted. I actually very nearly took the deep black ceramic Chrono at £8640 but after the messing around with the discount, 20% off the upgrade cost was far less than off the rrp so left me with a £2500 bill.

Obviously Omega showed complete remorse for your troubles. Can you ever get over the feeling that they've lifted your leg?
 
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I know but they also oddly proclaimed that as a new feature this year.

It does seem a bit strange. Without a copyright notice or other clear indication on the current instructions, I'll assume that they contain up-to-date information. I just dug out the Operating Instructions that came with my 2255.80. I'll assume that the copyright information near the back which includes "© Omega SA 01/05" indicates January 2005.

When it come to the HEV, on page 34 it says

"Even if the valve is unscrewed, the watch is still water-resistant to a relative pressure of 50 metres."

Not really radically different 😉
 
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Either way it sucks.

I’ve been in water from swimming to snorkeling to diving with explorers, subs, GMT 16710, AT, smp300 and PO’s and never had an issue.

The OP is at 2 out of 2 here..... wtf?
 
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some of the most misleading statements in horological terms relate to water “resistance” 😗

Can you elaborate on what you mean by that?

Cheers, Al
 
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Can you elaborate on what you mean by that?

Cheers, Al
When a customer who is not an expert buys a diving or similarly named watch that claims 150m 200m 300m etc..... your first impression is that it is waterproof and you can dive or wear the watch to that depth it's not until you really read up or have an issue you realise that this is not the case
 
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When a customer who is not an expert buys a diving or similarly named watch that claims 150m 200m 300m etc..... your first impression is that it is waterproof and you can dive or wear the watch to that depth it's not until you really read up or have an issue you realise that this is not the case

But defects notwithstanding, it is capable of the depth that is on the dial or case. There's no mystery to be solved by extra reading - it is what it claims to be so if it says it's rated to 300 m, it can go to 300 m and more given the safety factors involved.

Cheers, Al
 
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But defects notwithstanding, it is capable of the depth that is on the dial or case. There's no mystery to be solved by extra reading - it is what it claims to be so if it says it's rated to 300 m, it can go to 300 m and more given the safety factors involved.

Cheers, Al
This one should I agree, but my point is that putting a depth on the face of a watch leads the buyer to believe it is waterproof to that depth not water resistant? i.e the water resistance chart.
 
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This one should I agree, but my point is that putting a depth on the face of a watch leads the buyer to believe it is waterproof to that depth not water resistant? i.e the water resistance chart.

Not really sure why this should cause anyone any confusion - the depth is the depth so up to that depth, no water will enter the case if the watch is used to that depth, assuming the watch was put together correctly in the first place, and that it is properly maintained.
 
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Not really sure why this should cause anyone any confusion - the depth is the depth so up to that depth, no water will enter the case if the watch is used to that depth, assuming the watch was put together correctly in the first place, and that it is properly maintained.
That’s not what the chart says.........submerged in water does not mean you can dive to 100m for example.....confusing isn’t it!
 
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That’s not what the chart says.........submerged in water does not mean you can dive to 100m for example.....confusing isn’t it!
Diving watches work a bit differently... at least those marked diver or scuba on the case. Which oddly omegas are not.

Google it. Hint “ iso diver”
 
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That’s not what the chart says.........submerged in water does not mean you can dive to 100m for example.....confusing isn’t it!

There's nothing in that chart that suggests that a watch rated for 100m is not good to 100m. You are making this way more complicated than it really is...
 
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There's nothing in that chart that suggests that a watch rated for 100m is not good to 100m. You are making this way more complicated than it really is...
Not at all. The chart clearly states I cannot dive to 100m
 
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Not at all. The chart clearly states I cannot dive to 100m
Hint google what I said... then think legeal reasons outside of water resistance. As well as physical issues outside of water intrusion on a watch that might make it unsuitable for life support equipment.
 
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Not at all. The chart clearly states I cannot dive to 100m

You can believe whatever you wish - the watch will withstand 100 m if it says that on the dial...period.
 
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Hint google what I said... then think legeal reasons outside of water resistance. As well as physical issues outside of water intrusion on a watch that might make it unsuitable for life support equipment.
Yes confusing isn’t it, my point is a normal consumer not expert wants to go diving to say 80m the watch states 100m water resistance as in the chart above, he dives in it watch fails and you return it your out of luck, the graph above clearly shows in row 1, no diving?
 
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You can believe whatever you wish - the watch will withstand 100 m if it says that on the dial...period.
It’s not what I want to believe, what I am saying is that the chart and wording is misleading, you are wrong if we are both looking at the same chart
 
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, he dives in it watch fails and you return it your out of luck,

If the watch is in good condition, it will not fail at 80 m if it's rated to 100 m.

hotwheels hotwheels
It’s not what I want to believe, what I am saying is that the chart and wording is misleading, you are wrong if we are both looking at the same chart

100 m means it's good for 100 m. That doesn't mean it meets the specs for a dive watch, as that has very specific requirements set out by ISO.

For example, the AT is rated to 150 m, but it is not suitable for diving because for one it doesn't have an elapsed time bezel, which is requirement for a dive watch. That doesn't mean that the AT will fail if you take it to 150 m.
 
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My point from the start is that the industry use wording which I believe is misleading, so if I want to dive to 100m would my watch be waterproof at that depth if it says 100m, yes? But other factors would mean it may fail. And if I can’t dive to 100m how else would I be taking it 100m down......misleading
 
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My point from the start is that the industry use wording which I believe is misleading, so if I want to dive to 100m would my watch be waterproof at that depth if it says 100m, yes? But other factors would mean it may fail. And if I can’t dive to 100m how else would I be taking it 100m down......misleading
You can, your not listening. It’s just that they are not going to say you can use it for diving.
 
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No one (apart from @Hotwheelbill) is saying it will fail. The watch will be fine at 100m. The issue is it can't be labelled as suitable for scuba as it doesn't have a uni directional bezel as required by ISO 6425.

One thing I'll partially agree with you on however, is the free diving section. I'm not sure why they separate it from simple immersion in water (down to specified depth rating).
 
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