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·Its sad for me as a life-long BMW fan but there just aren't any post-E46 models that are problem free enough for me to be willing to risk it, hopefully the new generation of engines just released will be better.
Flooded Seamaster Planet Ocean Chrono
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·No my comments started by saying you had some Bad luck and you got reimbursed well. You then started calling me names, I responded much boxier then you have in every case but thanks for playing. I never called you cheap nor a twat regardless of what I was thinking.
Your use of language and several remarks were (by me) considered twatty and non constructive.. I think you also know it was.. anyhow.. you and i have dragged this out for long enough and as much as I enjoy a good old tete a tete, playing keyboard warriors across the pond with your good self isnt what im here for.
Clearly you are a little cock-sure about ones self and full of self importance and i neither consider rudeness or arrogance being ‘boxier’ than another. In the UK we just call someone like that a bit of a prick.
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··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...Your use of language and several remarks were (by me) considered twatty and non constructive.. I think you also know it was.. anyhow.. you and i have dragged this out for long enough and as much as I enjoy a good old tete a tete, playing keyboard warriors across the pond with your good self isnt what im here for.
Clearly you are a little cock-sure about ones self and full of self importance and i neither consider rudeness or arrogance being ‘boxier’ than another. In the UK we just call someone like that a bit of a prick.
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·Regarding water resistance I have noticed a marked cultural difference between Rolex owners and Omega owners. If you ask Rolex owners which model is best for water sports, they will say all of them, no hesitation. I heard on guy demonstrate by boiling his in a pot of soup. If you ask Omega owners, they will say the watch rated for snorkeling should only go under the tap, and the watch rated to go to depths far exceeding recreational scuba should only be worn in the pool if you’re carful not to swing your arms. All kinds of false equivalencies and technical excuses are given.
No offense intended to anyone here, and I love Omega, but I’m very curious as to why this is, and what led to it.
No offense intended to anyone here, and I love Omega, but I’m very curious as to why this is, and what led to it.
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··Ash @ ΩFRegarding water resistance I have noticed a marked cultural difference between Rolex owners and Omega owners. If you ask Rolex owners which model is best for water sports, they will say all of them, no hesitation. I heard on guy demonstrate by boiling his in a pot of soup. If you ask Omega owners, they will say the watch rated for snorkeling should only go under the tap, and the watch rated to go to depths far exceeding recreational scuba should only be worn in the pool if you’re carful not to swing your arms. All kinds of false equivalencies and technical excuses are given.
No offense intended to anyone here, and I love Omega, but I’m very curious as to why this is, and what led to it.
The actual depth ratings and what they're intended for don't vary though, a meter is a meter.
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··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...Nice Grosser! I had a chance to get one years ago, but decided against tripling my fuel consumption 😀
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerPart of the confusion and prompting for this thread was the speculation over water resistence with both the hev and crown open.. noone seems to actually know for sure if / depth etc.
I know this is a totally radical idea, but have you looked in the owner's manual for the answer? My guess is not, so take out the one for your new replacement and have a browse.
Cheers, Al
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·I know this is a totally radical idea, but have you looked in the owner's manual for the answer? My guess is not, so take out the one for your new replacement and have a browse.
Cheers, Al
I assumed the water resistance tollerance only stood with the crown and hev locked down. There seems to be alot of speculative ‘i thinks’ across many sites ive been on so i was curious as to what the official position on this was.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerRegarding water resistance I have noticed a marked cultural difference between Rolex owners and Omega owners. If you ask Rolex owners which model is best for water sports, they will say all of them, no hesitation. I heard on guy demonstrate by boiling his in a pot of soup. If you ask Omega owners, they will say the watch rated for snorkeling should only go under the tap, and the watch rated to go to depths far exceeding recreational scuba should only be worn in the pool if you’re carful not to swing your arms. All kinds of false equivalencies and technical excuses are given.
No offense intended to anyone here, and I love Omega, but I’m very curious as to why this is, and what led to it.
The reason is simple - people on watch forums spread false information that soon becomes fact, simply because it's repeated without question over and over again.
Here's is Omega's water resistance chart:
It clearly shows what ratings the watches are and what they are good for. As Ash stated, a meter is a meter...no qualifications. In my experience this sort of thinking is not brand specific, and any brand will get the "Is it safe to (insert innocuous activity here) while wearing my (insert famous or not brand here)?" kind of posts.
Cheers, Al
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·Al,
So assuming the pushers shouldnt be used underwater? I never have personally but did wonder.
So assuming the pushers shouldnt be used underwater? I never have personally but did wonder.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerAl,
So assuming the pushers shouldnt be used underwater? I never have personally but did wonder.
I know this isn't the answer you want, but please read the manual and let us know what it says...not trying to be a dick, but if more people RTFM we would have a lot less misinformation posted on forums. 😀
Cheers, Al
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Solidsnake
·I know this isn't the answer you want, but please read the manual and let us know what it says...not trying to be a dick, but if more people RTFM we would have a lot less misinformation posted on forums. 😀
Cheers, Al
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··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...My generation of manual was a bit fuzzy on Chrono operation under water, and even an OB was not sure.
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·My generation of manual was a bit fuzzy on Chrono operation under water, and even an OB was not sure.
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··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...Il have a read and see whats in the newer one. Post some photos if it helps anyone
While on the He valve unless the Watch was exposed to a helium environment at high pressure like in a Commercial diving bell it has no need. There are actually very good arguments that the He valve is actually pointless even for its intended purpose. As anyone diving in a high He at depth tri mix would have the watch inside the suit would not be able to operate it or read it and a non depth rated Watch would suffice. External to the suit the watch would not have He exposure. If your using diving bells your not going to need a watch anyway has you have a lot of surface support and you have no need for a dive timer. This is where you get into a GMT might actually be useful for deep saturation long term commercial work so they can keep track of the Day night cycle while at depth or in the decompression chamber.
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Nobel Prize
·The Chrono pushers are able to be used under water. I’m not sure if there is a max depth for that function or not. At recreational diving limits the HE valve can be open as well as the pushers used. Although unless the Watch was recently pressure tested with serviced pushers I wouldn’t. Honestly at recreational depths I don’t use either. I do use the Chrono as a back up service interval.
While on the He valve unless the Watch was exposed to a helium environment at high pressure like in a Commercial diving bell it has no need. There are actually very good arguments that the He valve is actually pointless even for its intended purpose. As anyone diving in a high He at depth tri mix would have the watch inside the suit would not be able to operate it or read it and a non depth rated Watch would suffice. External to the suit the watch would not have He exposure. If your using diving bells your not going to need a watch anyway has you have a lot of surface support and you have no need for a dive timer. This is where you get into a GMT might actually be useful for deep saturation long term commercial work so they can keep track of the Day night cycle while at depth or in the decompression chamber.
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··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...These are exactly all the considerations I take into account as I follow a turtle at 30 feet.
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·Hey man percentage wise that’s the most pressure change exerted on the watch. 100% increase in pressure in the first 33feet. It’s only a 50% change from 33 to 66! Your in the danger zone!!! 😀
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·These are exactly all the considerations I take into account as I follow a turtle at 30 feet.
The Chrono pushers are able to be used under water. I’m not sure if there is a max depth for that function or not. At recreational diving limits the HE valve can be open as well as the pushers used. Although unless the Watch was recently pressure tested with serviced pushers I wouldn’t. Honestly at recreational depths I don’t use either. I do use the Chrono as a back up service interval.
While on the He valve unless the Watch was exposed to a helium environment at high pressure like in a Commercial diving bell it has no need. There are actually very good arguments that the He valve is actually pointless even for its intended purpose. As anyone diving in a high He at depth tri mix would have the watch inside the suit would not be able to operate it or read it and a non depth rated Watch would suffice. External to the suit the watch would not have He exposure. If your using diving bells your not going to need a watch anyway has you have a lot of surface support and you have no need for a dive timer. This is where you get into a GMT might actually be useful for deep saturation long term commercial work so they can keep track of the Day night cycle while at depth or in the decompression chamber.
Cheers, quite informative. So basically at recreational dive limits there is simply no need for the HE valve to be used. Clearly you also know your dive stuff too so its always good to get another divers perspective.
I did once wreck a aquaterra gmt chrono by using the pushers whilst swimming and timing laps.
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