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Fake or not ? Omega Seamaster automatic 50’ - 60’

  1. Nodi

    Nodi May 11, 2019

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    7829E608-1356-42FD-9F1A-2DEC991CDBF8.png AD4231E8-A0DA-45FE-918E-F1FE38BBA51E.png 2B69C522-0417-4468-B9CA-0A04D99A38C5.png 05590261-2A75-41AD-8DC2-27F2E1221186.png Hello, everybody !
    Maybe you can help me. Can you tell me if this watch is a true or fake omega seamaster ? If it’s true, can you tell me how you see that and what is the serial number ? For the moment, I don’t have find this watch on Omega’s website.
    Thank you very much.
    Good afternoon !
     
  2. Shabbaz

    Shabbaz May 11, 2019

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    It's a genuine omega. You can find the modelnumber and serialnumber in the inside. It's a unishell case which means you can open it only from the dial side. You can ask a watchmaker to do this.
     
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  3. JwRosenthal

    JwRosenthal May 11, 2019

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    Looks genuine to me. It looks like a pre-Deville SM model would most likely be 14770-2, I have a similar watch in all stainless, but with no lume and different markers.

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    Sharper images of the dial would helpful to see if there are lume plots at the end of the markers- that would tell if the hands are original. Since it’s pre-‘63, there wouldn’t be any T’s next to Swiss Made” since it would be radium.
    Veterans- correct me if I’m wrong in this assessment.
     
  4. 77deluxe

    77deluxe May 11, 2019

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    Genuine. Post some better pics for some better assessments.
     
  5. JwRosenthal

    JwRosenthal May 11, 2019

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    It’s also in really nice shape. If you pick up, ditch that nasty stretchy bracelet and throw it on a nice brown/burgundy croc and it will pop.
     
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  6. 77deluxe

    77deluxe May 11, 2019

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    Do you own the watch or are you contemplating buying it?
     
  7. Nodi

    Nodi May 11, 2019

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    I want to buy this one. The seller want 590€ what do you think about this price ?
     
  8. Nodi

    Nodi May 11, 2019

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    Thanks for your answers. Here is another pictures :
     
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  9. Shabbaz

    Shabbaz May 11, 2019

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    Depends how much time you want to keep looking. 590 is not that bad although I would try to get it to EUR 500. With service you're in for EUR 800. That's app max market value. As said, loose the bracelet (although the fixoflex was probably delivered original together with the watch) and buy yourself a nice alligator strap. The dial seems to be very attractive. For me personally that's the most important thing.
     
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  10. JwRosenthal

    JwRosenthal May 11, 2019

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    Too high. Gold capped are not highly desirable (this is not solid gold, just the bezel is gold), so that hurts the value compared to all stainless. It will need to be serviced, even if it’s “running” as all the oils inside will be bone dry by now- that will add about €200 +/-.
    I would say, if it were running and keeping time right now, but knowing it will need a service- about €350 is the highest I would go.
     
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  11. JwRosenthal

    JwRosenthal May 11, 2019

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    I think that’s really high for gold capped. But then again, I’m not a fan of them so don’t watch them as closely as I do the stainless.
     
  12. Shabbaz

    Shabbaz May 11, 2019

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    You're right. But I've sold a lot of similar gold capped seamasters for app 800 (especially if they were serviced). But personally I would never pay EUR 590 or 500. But I think OP is not searching for omega's three hours a day. ;) So that's why I said it depends how much time you're willing to search...
     
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  13. hoipolloi

    hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur May 11, 2019

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    3 hours a day, $40/an hour. Ten days found this one.
     
  14. 77deluxe

    77deluxe May 11, 2019

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    I think it’s priced high.
     
  15. Shabbaz

    Shabbaz May 11, 2019

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    Haha. That's true..
     
  16. JwRosenthal

    JwRosenthal May 11, 2019

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    Completely agree with you, and if I were buying it from a forum member in as-in condition I would agree with your assessment-but in a private party sale, I always go low....you dont know what your gonna find when you open that case
     
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  17. Shabbaz

    Shabbaz May 11, 2019

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    But they can look nice though... :D
     
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  18. 77deluxe

    77deluxe May 11, 2019

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    Unfortunately, most of the time you know what you’re gonna find....
     
  19. Nodi

    Nodi May 11, 2019

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    This watch belonged to a collector. He had other brands like Rolex and Breitling with the maintenance books. For the omega there is not notebook unfortunately but the visuel aspect is good. I like this watch a lot (except the bracelet) ! I will negotiate 500 €.
     
  20. JwRosenthal

    JwRosenthal May 11, 2019

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    It sounds like you really like it, then go for it and enjoy. See if he’ll throw in a real crocodile strap for it- that will sweeten the deal.
     
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