Fake gold Pie Pan?

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Hi fellow collectors,

Can you help me out in figuring if these two claimed to be 14k Pie Pans are fake, thanks?

I could get them suspiciously cheap, so that makes me think fake, even though to my eyes the dials look pretty good.

 
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Cases have been heavily polished

Yeah, that's a good point. Especially with "dog legs" losing those sharp edges makes the appearance lot less appealing.
 
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First one 750€ / $880 and second one 650€ / $760.
I'm pretty sure that is much less than melt value, so you should definitely be suspicious.
 
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I'm pretty sure that is much less than melt value, so you should definitely be suspicious.
Yeah, sometimes you can find this kind of deals from sellers who doesn't know what they have. But in this case already photo quality (and them using cotton gloves) together with listing stating solid gold gives an impression that the seller isn't clueless. So most likely a hoax of some sort.
 
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Could be the picture angle or a shadow, but this looks suspicious and I haven't known a gold case to wear like this.

 
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Could be the picture angle or a shadow, but this looks suspicious and I haven't known a gold case to wear like this.


Yeah, that section looks like it could be thin plating wearing off. Which would make it a scam because both of those watches had 14k 0.585 stamps inside their casebacks.
 
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Out of curiousity, do you have photos of the sides of the watch and inside the caseback? For a reference of what fake cases look like.
 
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I don’t like the dial on the second one - the Omega isn’t parallel to the upper script.

More likely a scam rather than fakes.
 
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Out of curiousity, do you have photos of the sides of the watch and inside the caseback? For a reference of what fake cases look like.

Here all other photos from that first watch (the one with weird, faded medallion). I don't know why the seller didn't post a photo of the opposite side of the crown.

 
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I don’t like the dial on the second one - the Omega isn’t parallel to the upper script.

More likely a scam rather than fakes.

Also for me the text looks slightly too thick/bold even though font otherwise appears close to correct.

This second watch someone already bought. Not that it would make any difference for me.
 
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Here the 2nd one:

Almost surely the text in this one is wrong. “omega” and “automatic” are not parallel and the “automatic” is slightly bigger than the rest of the text below.
 
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Here’s a picture of what the back of a Constellation of that era should look like: upload_2021-5-25_12-7-4-jpeg.1227259
The inside of the caseback should be grained like the OP’s first example. That watch has be polished so heavily that I can’t tell if it is correct or a cast copy.

For that reason, I would stay away from it even at a bargain price.
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So, what do we think about this specimen then?

I'm guessing a redial because cross hair isn't centered on Omega logo and font on Constellation seems too thin.

Then somehow the engraved model numbers on the caseback seem off. But I might be wrong on this part.

 
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The position of the Omega symbol could be parallax.
However:
The surface of the dial is wrong.
The minute haches are too far away from the edge.
The 2 index has been glued on.
The vertical cross hair shouldn’t touch the ‘e’.
The ‘l’ isn’t parallel to the vertical cross hair.

The case back is ok as far as I can see.