Fake back case? (UPDATE)

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ALinares

·Aug 29, 2019

Hi all.
I have a doubt and hope you can help me.
Following the "Vintage Omega Posting Guide":
1.- Sorry, those pictures came from the seller.

2.- This is a Omega 18K Rose Gold cal.267 c.1950s. Recently serviced. Not original strap but with original buckle. I guess from USA market...

3.- And this is my concern:

I never have seen an inside logo on back case like this. This is not the common Omega triangle with the Omega letter...
It is possible that the back case could be faked?

4.- It is on sale (I´m interested, that why I'm looking information, making the homework).

PLEASE, feed backs will be gratefully welcome.

 

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KingCrouchy

·Aug 29, 2019

Looks weird, found the same on a completely different Watch.
https://jackmond.com/products/omega-1926-18kt-yellow-gold-vintage-watch

 

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BlackTalon

·Aug 29, 2019·This Space for Rent

Interesting. Found one here from a handful of yeas ago:

https://www.relojes-especiales.com/foros/vintages/vintage-amigos-and-cia-al-02-05-2011-a-174995/2/

And another: https://auction.catawiki.com/kavels/15975033-cauny-prima-18-kt-gold-women-s-watch-1950s

 

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ALinares

·Aug 29, 2019

KingCrouchy

Looks weird, found the same on a completely different Watch.
https://jackmond.com/products/omega-1926-18kt-yellow-gold-vintage-watch

😲 Wow!

 

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ALinares

·Aug 29, 2019

BlackTalon

Interesting. Found one here from a handful of yeas ago:

https://www.relojes-especiales.com/foros/vintages/vintage-amigos-and-cia-al-02-05-2011-a-174995/2/

And another: https://auction.catawiki.com/kavels/15975033-cauny-prima-18-kt-gold-women-s-watch-1950s

Mmmmm, two examples of the same watch with the same case back ... It could be authentic.

 

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BenBagbag

·Aug 29, 2019

I'm scared of sellers who wear gloves to list their pieces. Just came here to say that. 😁

 

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X350 XJR

·Aug 30, 2019·Vintage Omega Aficionado

Looks somewhat typical of a South American case, definitely NOT USA.

 

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Foo2rama

·Aug 30, 2019·Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...

Real movement... high quality local market marked case.... 12k marked... obvious damage on a lug to show it’s not plated....

And what exactly is the question?

Edited: Aug 30, 2019

 

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ALinares

·Aug 30, 2019

Finished.

Thanks to KingCrouchy references and
BlackTalon I could verify that the piece is authentic even with a cage made locally (not Swiss). And besides, it's a great caliber so I'm going to make an offer.

Thanks

PS. 0'750 means 75% gold or 18K, not 12K.

 

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ALinares

·Aug 30, 2019

Ha, and nothing to do with South America either. 🙄

 

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Foo2rama

·Aug 30, 2019·Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...

A ALinares

Finished.

Thanks to KingCrouchy references and
BlackTalon I could verify that the piece is authentic even with a cage made locally (not Swiss). And besides, it's a great caliber so I'm going to make an offer.

Thanks

PS. 0'750 means 75% gold or 18K, not 12K.

I was going by what it looked like and was tired.

 

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ALinares

·Aug 30, 2019

Foo2rama

I was going by what it looked like and was tired.

It's ok, it happens... Thansk.

 

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VintageWatchIta

·Aug 31, 2019

Original backcase, I've seen it on other pieces

 

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ConElPueblo

·Aug 31, 2019

VintageWatchIta

Original backcase, I've seen it on other pieces

But not Swiss made...

@ALinares - are there any hallmarks on the case?

 

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ICONO

·Aug 31, 2019

X350 XJR

Looks somewhat typical of a South American case, definitely NOT USA.

A ALinares

Ha, and nothing to do with South America either. 🙄

Where the watch originated from …and it’s current Country…can, of course, be two different locations ?

The damage to the lug…suggests ‘hollow lugs’ ?

The angle of the crown looks ‘skew whiff’? …so the winding stem could be bent

 

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ALinares

·Sep 1, 2019

ICONO

Where the watch originated from …and it’s current Country…can, of course, be two different locations ?

The damage to the lug…suggests ‘hollow lugs’ ?

The angle of the crown looks ‘skew whiff’? …so the winding stem could be bent

Yesterday I had this watch on my hands and ...
It's correct, the crown is not original, it's omega but not the original one, the color is different and the stem... I'm not sure.
Lugs, are worn but I'm not sure if they are hollow.
Origin ... Nobody knows, but now it's in southwest border US.

 

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ALinares

·Sep 1, 2019

Certainly was not made for the American market.
No OGX engraving on movement or hallmarks in case.

 

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ConElPueblo

·Sep 2, 2019

ICONO

The damage to the lug…suggests ‘hollow lugs’ ?

The damage to the back side of the lugs? Those marks look like wear from a bracelet to me. Probably a steel/plated steel bracelet that has rubbed a mark in the gold.

 

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ALinares

·Sep 10, 2019

@ConElPueblo Yes, the lugs were rubbed or carved by some kind of bracelet. 😕

UPDATE:
But finally I decided not to buy this piece (the one on the top of the thread) and made a big mistake that I want to share with you.
I finally bought another watch, the one on the following pictures, and the next day I regretted it.

Why I regret it? Not sure, I just didn't love it.
I don't know if that happened to any of you, but sometimes it happens to me...
I appreciate your comments in this thread.
Thanks to all.