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Fake 2998-4 at Sotheby's !

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I know this watch has already been discussed here, but I just discovered a very serious issue so I decided to open a new thread. http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2017/watches-sale-l17053/lot.117.html

Look at the dial : this is NOT a 2998 dial ! This is actually a 105.003 dial, and the T's have been covered with black paint. They forgot there is a lot of differences between a 2998 and 105.003 dial... for example the length of the minute track.

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gemini4
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Nice @Pianist. Missing the Oval O as well.

The Omega Police are always watching:whipped:
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Wow, this looks like fraud... I hope they are not "aware" that the dial is a fake 2998 dial
 
Larry S
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Disturbing. Can't even trust Southeby? How frequently does this happen with them?
 
gemini4
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Everybody's running to check their 2998 dials 🙁
 
richardew
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Nice. I never would have noticed that. Learned something new today and I haven't even finished my cup of coffee yet. What did you think of Churchill's watch?
 
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richardew richardew
Nice. I never would have noticed that. Learned something new today and I haven't even finished my cup of coffee yet. What did you think of Churchill's watch?

Well, to begin with, it was worn by Britain's most beloved racist... 😉
 
gemini4
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Vintage Speedmaster Omega Dial "O" Primer (The O in the word Omega). All of the "O"s are ovalish but some much more pronounced than others.

2915 Widest Oval O
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2998-1 thru 2998-2. Rounder O
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2998-3 thru 105.002-62. Narrow Oval O
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105.003. Rounder O
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Only one oval"O,but this post is good for explain different"E.

If the Chrono Center Seconds Hand is at zero, as in the OP 2998-4 pic, the Omega "E" is often hidden from view.
 
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Well, to begin with, it was worn by Britain's most beloved racist... 😉
Uncalled for and a cheap dig at one of Great Britains greatest Statesmen. He may have been a braggart and failed dismally in a spectacular defeat during World War 1 but he more than made up for it during World War 2. He had his faults but he was the man we needed in the 1940's. We need the same again now.
 
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Uncalled for and a cheap dig at one of Great Britains greatest Statesmen. He may have been a braggart and failed dismally in a spectacular defeat during World War 1 but he more than made up for it during World War 2. He had his faults but he was the man we needed in the 1940's. We need the same again now.

Here! Here! Think Europe would be a bit different today if not for WSC?

Regarding the Dardanelles campaign of 1915, if Churchill had Admirals who could stomach a loss of old ships and if Churchill had control of the Army, this historic defeat could have been a victory. He learned never again to propose a grand battle plan without the full authority to see it through. In WW2, large gambles, with full control, were taken in North Africa and the result was a monumental victory.
 
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Tubber Tubber
Uncalled for and a cheap dig at one of Great Britains greatest Statesmen. He may have been a braggart and failed dismally in a spectacular defeat during World War 1 but he more than made up for it during World War 2. He had his faults but he was the man we needed in the 1940's. We need the same again now.
There night before his famous "We shall fight them on the beaches" he called together a meeting between his cabinet and the shadow cabinet to decide if Britain should fight for the liberation of France or accept a deal offered by Hitler, which would been extremely advantageous for Britain. Churchill did not believe Britain could win against the Germans and argued that the British should accept Hitlers deal. He put it to the vote. There were only two votes in it one of which was not Churchill s. I don't know if he should be berated for considering siding with Adolf or praised for following the descion of the majority. Considering the huge odds against Britain perhaps he took the brave descion.
 
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Pianist Pianist
I know this watch has already been discussed here, but I just discovered a very serious issue so I decided to open a new thread. http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2017/watches-sale-l17053/lot.117.html

Look at the dial : this is NOT a 2998 dial ! This is actually a 105.003 dial, and the T's have been covered with black paint. They forgot there is a lot of differences between a 2998 and 105.003 dial... for example the length of the minute track.

FotorCreated-2.jpg FotorCreated-1 2.jpg
Seems to have a more narrow rehaut as well, probably to show the non T Swiss in all it's glory as it would be almost entirely covered by an original silver rehaut.

Sothebys 2998
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2998 with 105.003 dial
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2998 with 2998 dial
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gemini4 gemini4
He learned never again to propose a grand battle plan without the full authority to see it through. In WW2, large gambles, with full control, were taken in North Africa and the result was a monumental victory.

With more then a little help from Patton...
 
gemini4
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With more then a little help from Patton...

Not really. Made for a nice movie but the British (and valiant Commonwealth divisions) had won North Africa well before the Americans landed to help mop up.
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