Started as an 4500£ auction but, I presume, the Seller Got An Offer He Couldn’t Refuse. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/253974926859 https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/253976464420 Not a racing dial expert but I suppose this is considered a bargain. Opinions
Hmm, I don't know much either - but my guess is that it could be worth substantially more than that! There have been a couple 145.012-68 with the black racing dial as per Speedmaster101 and some other forums/websites, but the width of the pushers made me think the case was from a 105.012. Anyway the serial number seemed ok for the reference (i think?), and the midcase condition seemed good. I messaged the buyer earlier this morning, and he was adamant that he was going to let it end in an auction, but I guess the 20,000 was too much to turn down! It will be interesting where it turns up! and to be honest i wish i had the cash available to purchase it.
Here’s a earlier thread with a nice picture https://omegaforums.net/threads/red-racing-145-012-speedmaster.85124/
Second listing, one bid? Is that what happens when you make an offer to buy? Seller lists at the agreed price with BiN and buyer quickly nabs it?
Yes I have seen this happen several times. This way, it doesn't circumvent eBay rules as they still get a "cut".
Indeed a real bargain, dial looks legit, and with some luck serial might even match in the batch of black racing dials issued
Saw this as soon as it went on and got excited but it's currently out of my range anyway. Looks like the type of example people would've gone crazy over. Looking at the seller, he seems to be a reseller of various watches and parts so probably hoped it would go for around 2-3k!
The seller will re-auction the Speed for the second time in the next few days. He canceled the sale because he had more offers and much interest We will all have a second chance
I think racing dials are pretty interesting. One of the few watches that you can buy for an absolute steal if you can find a seller that doesn't know what it is and before the sharks make it there. Ive seen this same story many times. Seller has one of these and has no idea what it is. They list it and then get tons of offers over what they expected. Sometimes they honor their first agreement they make and sometimes they back out like this seller has seemed to do. Very interesting watch. Will be fun to see what it sells for on the open market.
Interesting point. My distinction would be if youre the first to find it and agree on a watch at a price that makes both buyer and seller happy thats fine. I define a shark as one who scrolls through sold listings on ebay or the like and offering more than it sold for stealing the watch from those who made the first deal. If I was the person who offered 20k I would be quite upset now that the seller has seemed to back out.
Actually I would not dissagree. £20k is approaching the price that it is worth - if the dial is damaged or the movement does not match up. In other words, its the low end of fair assuming anything that can go wrong will - and with those photos, it could. The behavior I dont like is a recent case I heard where an old guy rang a watch dealer who recognized the man had a 2915. He drove down and bought it for £3000 saying it wasn't worth anymore. That is wrong, and quite different from this case where the watch is being sold by a dealer - who apparently thinks its ok to back out of a deal. I do not treat professional sellers the same way as single owners. I will over pay a single, or private owner. (The last big deal I did was for a BA145022 and it paid for an elderly owner's Hospice care) However I will skin a professional seller alive if he lets me. (I wont steal it, I will get him to sell it!)
Talking to the seller on eBay, he is getting an extract from omega, and will get some better photos. I think he was genuinely surprised from all the interest.
