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Does patina really add value to watch? Omega pre-Seamaster 2451-6 Cal 321

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Hi OF. Been more on the lookout for vintage watches lately and instead of restoring an older Cal 321, I was recently offered this one by my local watchmaker with original dial. Sorry my pics isn't the greatest, but hopefully it captures the essence of this Ref. 2451-6 with a serviced Cal. 321. He says he's giving me a great deal because of the beautiful patina on this original dial. It's an attention getter. So how much does patina actually add to value on vintage Omegas?

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cristos71
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The big problem with the watch is that the dial is (water) damaged and missing much of the minutes and tachymeter tracks. That will significantly devalue the watch so any talk of increase value due to the patina is misplaced with this one.
 
Davidt
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Nine times out of ten, patina has a neutral or negative impact on value.
Agree it’s certainly not a plus on this one.
 
DON
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That would have been a refinishing project.

what great deal is he asking for it?
 
TexOmega
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lucreative lucreative
He's asking a straight $4k for it.


Yikes, but baby needs new shoes!

Not patina, DAMAGE, rusted upper pusher shaft, too....water damage
 
Zman4eva
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That's damage, not patina. I wouldn't spend $4k for something in that condition.
 
Aroxx
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This watch looks like it smoked for about 50 years.
 
Dan S
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In this case, I would say that although the patina has some appeal, overall the condition of the dial detracts from the value because of the non-uniform coloration, badly faded printing, etc. It's the type of watch I'd consider at a bargain price, and then just enjoy it as a curiosity. I think that $4k could probably buy a very good example of this reference. So I can't imagine he will get even $3k for it, and $2k-$2.5k is probably more realistic. The dial is really rough.
 
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