Does anyone understand how watch tariffs work currently for watches coming into the US?

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I am interested in purchasing a vintage watch from overseas on Chrono24. As an example one watch is in Italy and another in South Africa. In as much as I can tell Italy has a 10% tariff and South Africa has a 30% tariff.

Does the old 9100 harmonized tariff still hold or is it the new tariff and on top of that or in place for it? Really confused here.
 
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Nobody knows, not even the orange one. What is today can be different tomorrow.
 
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Anything could happen, zero through harmonized tariff plus 30%. Good luck.
 
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It's probably best at this point to not be importing stuff into the US unless you aren't concerned with a tariff surcharge. Let things settle out, the nonsense won't last forever.
 
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I emailed customs and borders a few days ago and they indicated chapter 91 is still the relevant law. I just got the email an hour ago. I emailed them back trying to get them to clarify if it’s chapter 91 plus the national tariff or what.
 
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Get it shipped via their postal service so that it delivers in the US via USPS. 99% of the time, they don't even bother collecting any customs at all, even if the value of your item exceeds de minimis.
 
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Get it shipped via their postal service so that it delivers in the US via USPS. 99% of the time, they don't even bother collecting any customs at all, even if the value of your item exceeds de minimis.
The de minimis exemption ($800) was stopped back in May. Even small value products are getting tariffs charged. Just FYI - you still might luck out, but I wouldn’t bet on it.
 
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The de minimis exemption ($800) was stopped back in May. Even small value products are getting tariffs charged. Just FYI - you still might luck out, but I wouldn’t bet on it.
I thought it was eliminated only for China and HK.
 
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The de minimis exemption ($800) was stopped back in May. Even small value products are getting tariffs charged. Just FYI - you still might luck out, but I wouldn’t bet on it.
I just got a $5000 watch from Japan about 2 weeks ago via EMS (USPS). $0 in fees.

The de minimis still applies to countries like Italy. The only places I've heard it being removed is for China & Hong Kong, mostly to target cheap stuff from companies like Temu and AliExpress. And they're actually enforcing/collecting the taxes for items originating from there.

UPS, FedEx, and DHL will collect the extra tariffs, though.
 
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Get it shipped via their postal service so that it delivers in the US via USPS. 99% of the time, they don't even bother collecting any customs at all, even if the value of your item exceeds de minimis.
Exactly this. I have not had to pay tariffs on things ultimately delivered by USPS.
 
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I recently had a watch imported from Japan.. shipped Fedex with official customs paperwork and a $910 declared value (further broken down on the watch worksheet form).

A few weeks later I received a bill from Fedex for $149 in customs duties (included a small fee for Fedex logistics).

Also had a watch shipped via DHL from Italy at a similar value. No fees/duties charged.

Seems like a crapshoot but if official paperwork is filed with US Customs, it does seem like you will get hit with a larger tariff than in the past.. at least from my one experience.
 
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If a few hundred bucks or so has a person reconsidering buying a luxury watch, maybe that person should ask themselves if they can really afford to buy a luxury watch?
 
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From customs and border protection:

“Let’s say the code is 9101.19.2020 and the Column 1 rate is “Free”. It would be that rate plus 10 percent (for a total of 10 percent). Chapter 91 does not shield it from the reciprocal tariffs.”

It’s chapter 91 plus reciprocal. That counts my South African Omega out.
 
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I thought it was eliminated only for China and HK.
Only until they have the manpower to do it for all. At least that was the last that I heard, but things change by the minute, so who really knows?
 
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Only until they have the manpower to do it for all. At least that was the last that I heard, but things change by the minute, so who really knows?
Not accurate. It was for these countries only. The only planned expansion would be Macau.

  • Following the Secretary of Commerce’s notification that adequate systems are in place to collect tariff revenue, President Trump is ending duty-free de minimis treatment for covered goods from the People’s Republic of China (PRC) and Hong Kong starting May 2, 2025 at 12:01 a.m. EDT.
    • Imported goods sent through means other than the international postal network that are valued at or under $800 and that would otherwise qualify for the de minimis exemption will be subject to all applicable duties, which shall be paid in accordance with applicable entry and payment procedures.
    • All relevant postal items containing goods that are sent through the international postal network that are valued at or under $800 and that would otherwise qualify for the de minimis exemption are subject to a duty rate of either 30% of their value or $25 per item (increasing to $50 per item after June 1, 2025). This is in lieu of any other duties, including those imposed by prior Orders.
  • Carriers transporting these postal items must report shipment details to U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), maintain an international carrier bond to ensure duty payment, and remit duties to CBP on a set schedule.
  • CBP may require formal entry for any postal package instead of the specified duties.
  • The Secretary of Commerce will submit a report within 90 days assessing the Order’s impact and considering whether to extend these rules to packages from Macau.
 
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If a few hundred bucks or so has a person reconsidering buying a luxury watch, maybe that person should ask themselves if they can really afford to buy a luxury watch?

Not the point. Just because you can afford a luxury item doesn't mean you want to burn money.

If I can buy a nice condition watch from Japan for $2800 but might need to pay about $500 in tariffs (per the seller's estimate), I should just buy the same model domestically for $3300 ( assuming it's available). But I don't want to pay more for a domestic purchase if the tarrifs are disappearing, so I don't buy anything.

This has been my experience. I have purchased several watches and bracelets from Japan with help from forum members. But not now. I was recently looking at a watch in Japan but decided against it because of the uncertainty around tariffs.

As an aside, before Trump introduced new tariffs, I also experienced irregular enforcement. Sometimes I was charged duty fees and often was not. I assumed I would pay them and would be happy if I didn't. Now I don't know how to calculate how much it'll be.
 
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Not the point. Just because you can afford a luxury item doesn't mean you want to burn money.

If I can buy a nice condition watch from Japan for $2800 but might need to pay about $500 in tariffs (per the seller's estimate), I should just buy the same model domestically for $3300 ( assuming it's available). But I don't want to pay more for a domestic purchase if the tarrifs are disappearing, so I don't buy anything.

This has been my experience. I have purchased several watches and bracelets from Japan with help from forum members. But not now. I was recently looking at a watch in Japan but decided against it because of the uncertainty around tariffs.

As an aside, before Trump introduced new tariffs, I also experienced irregular enforcement. Sometimes I was charged duty fees and often was not. I assumed I would pay them and would be happy if I didn't. Now I don't know how to calculate how much it'll be.
The last part does seem the same. It's like it's just up to the person working at FedEx on a given day, whether you get charged import duties or not. It's pretty crazy but as you say, we all just breathe a sigh of relief when they don't charge anything.
 
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Not accurate. It was for these countries only. The only planned expansion would be Macau.
  • Imported goods sent through means other than the international postal network that are valued at or under $800 and that would otherwise qualify for the de minimis exemption will be subject to all applicable duties, which shall be paid in accordance with applicable entry and payment procedures.
  • All relevant postal items containing goods that are sent through the international postal network that are valued at or under $800 and that would otherwise qualify for the de minimis exemption are subject to a duty rate of either 30% of their value or $25 per item (increasing to $50 per item after June 1, 2025). This is in lieu of any other duties, including those imposed by prior Orders.
Are you sure? To me this reads otherwise...