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Do you think this one is a redial?

  1. pnwyankee Apr 14, 2020

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    Link to listing on chrono24: https://www.chrono24.com/zenith/zenith--id14835021.htm
    Would have preferred to include pics but I haven't had any luck downloading images from chrono24's site
    This dial looks almost too good to be true - what do you think?
    Also, does anybody know what model Zenith this is?
    Thanks
     
  2. JwRosenthal Apr 14, 2020

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    If you have iPhone you can touch and hold then add to your photos or just take a screen shot and edit the frame down to the pic.

    Don’t know zenith but here’s your pics

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  3. Dan S Apr 14, 2020

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    Yes, probably a redial IMO. And the applied star is misaligned with the underlying printed star, which is fairly bizarre. No way the watch came like that from the factory. I also suspect that the hands are replacements.
     
  4. padders Oooo subtitles! Apr 14, 2020

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    I am no expert on these but that caseback text looks pretty low rent, more commonly seen on low end vintage models. Even if it is straight, the thing with the star and the back would put me off it altogether.
     
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  5. pnwyankee Apr 14, 2020

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  6. preacher Apr 14, 2020

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    Redial, and I think also a fantasy case
     
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  7. BlackTalon This Space for Rent Apr 14, 2020

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    Minute tick mark spacing is inconsistent, 44 sec mark is diagonal. Crosshairs for small seconds do not align with 6 marker.
     
  8. pnwyankee Apr 14, 2020

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    This is getting embarrassing.
    Honestly, I wasn't ready to buy, but I am going to have to learn to see better.
    Thanks to all!
     
  9. CaptainWinsor Apr 14, 2020

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    It’s a mess. Why they put a star over the other star is bizarre. Could be original case as Zenith did have some wild cases in the 40’s but the caseback doesn’t look right. Hands not original for a dial like that. Sub seconds crosshairs too long for the short hand. I can smell the paint from here
     
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  10. JwRosenthal Apr 14, 2020

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    That’s what this place is all about, learning to see better.
    And I think threads like this are helpful with these kinds of responses. Those that just respond “fake”- don’t add to the collective knowledge and education of others.
    If you hadn’t posted this apparent disaster, those of us who don’t know Zenith’s wouldn’t know what to look for
     
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  11. pnwyankee Apr 14, 2020

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    Amen to that.
     
  12. CaptainWinsor Apr 14, 2020

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    It looks like it should have a Cal 106 or variation inside. The thing with those pieces is that you could have no star, outline star or applied star but never one on top of the other. Although Zenith catalogs from the time advertise Cadran Noir, black dial, I’m always suspicious of them. It says sold, what was the asking price?
     
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  13. pnwyankee Apr 14, 2020

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    I think it was between $525 and $550
     
  14. CaptainWinsor Apr 14, 2020

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