Demagnetising Story

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Wanted to share. My NTTD Seamaster was running perfectly, 0 to +.5 spd when suddenly it started losing time in all positions. Nothing too bad, about -.5 to -1 spd for months. For the last few weeks, it's been more erratic, going from +4 spd to -1 spd despite the same pattern of use, 12 hrs on the wrist, 12 hrs resting in the same position every night. I suspected magnetism as I did want to try out the METAS certification and see if my watch could resist magnets and did slap a strong magnet against the watch a few times, but reading online, most people said magnetism would result in the watch running fast.

To test, I tried different phone apps to detect magnetism. Overall they were all a bit iffy since it would sometimes detect magnetism and other times not. Finally gave in and tried one of those Amazon blue box demagnetiser and compass to test. Immediately the compass needle went nuts deflecting nearly 90 degrees as I waved my watch over it.

For the demagnetising, after reading all the online variations of how to do it along with the manual, I settled on putting a thick micro fiber cloth over the box folded to about 5mm thickness, then placing my watch on it face up after pulling the crown out to hack the movement. I turned on the demagnetiser, waited for the buzz and light to be on for a second or two, then raised the watch straight up slowly over 5 seconds by holding on to the bracelet. I then flipped the watch over and did it again. After the two passes, I waved the watch over the compass, and nothing! Same with the phone app, no more magnetic field detected.

Checked the watch accuracy and it's back to near exactly how I first received it. Gains 1-2 seconds flat, loses 1 second on the 3 and 9 up positions, about neutral at 12 and 6 up.

I was hesitant on doing this since it seemed like most sources I read suggested that a magnetised watch should run fast not slow, plus it seemed like it would be easy to magnetise the watch if don't incorrectly. But after fixing it so easily, would highly recommend or at least get a cheap compass to check the magnetism over the phone apps.
 
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Interesting story—but isn’t this movement rated to 15,000 gauss? I’m concerned that it got magnetized in the first place.
 
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Interesting story—but isn’t this movement rated to 15,000 gauss? I’m concerned that it got magnetized in the first place.
The fine print is something about not deviating more than 6 sec? When exposed to a field up to 15,000 gauss. Doesn't actually mean it's fully antimagnetic, technically, it only slowed down a little when magnetized.
 
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Several years ago, a collector phone me and asked if I would demagnetize his erratic Zenith. He brought it. At no time did I test it for magnetism. I noticed that, at times, the second coil of the hairspring would contact the curb pin of the regulator. A deft adjustment of the outer half of the outer coil of the hairspring to give it clearance from the curb pin returned the watch to seconds per day performance. I don’t remember the last time I had occasion to run a modern watch through the demagnetizing process.
 
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You think the movement was magnetized because it was running -1s to +4s per day?
 
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You think the movement was magnetized because it was running -1s to +4s per day?
Just reporting what I saw. Phone app was reading 100+ microT when watch was passed over, and the compass consistently would deflect 90 degrees. 2 passes later and it's no longer affecting either.

The watch has been running pretty consistently positive when I first got it and only losing time the last few months. The last few weeks was when it would run slow a few days, then fast for a day, then slow again. The positional variance is nearly the same as when I first bought it now after demagnetising it, or maybe it's all placebo.
 
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So it was slightly magnetized, but still running quite well. Amazing.
 
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So it was slightly magnetized, but still running quite well. Amazing.
Yea, that was why I wanted to share. Wish I took a video now. Most online forums said magnetism should really throw off the accuracy, and other places said that the METAS movement can't be magnetize.

But boy did that compass needle swing around.
 
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Yea, that was why I wanted to share. Wish I took a video now. Most online forums said magnetism should really throw off the accuracy, and other places said that the METAS movement can't be magnetize.

But boy did that compass needle swing around.
It could be the movement itself was not magnetized. Plenty of other metal. And you'd think between the case being magnetized, and gravity existing, it would run erratically depending on how it's worn/oriented.
 
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It could be the movement itself was not magnetized. Plenty of other metal. And you'd think between the case being magnetized, and gravity existing, it would run erratically depending on how it's worn/oriented.
Could be.

But previously even with random positions, flying, diving, the accuracy has been impressively consistent until the past few weeks when every position was running slow.

If not the movement the case was certainly magnetized quite a bit, and the cheap demagnetiser worked in 1 attempt and was a lot easier than I expected.
 
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The fine print is something about not deviating more than 6 sec? When exposed to a field up to 15,000 gauss. Doesn't actually mean it's fully antimagnetic, technically, it only slowed down a little when magnetized.
What magnetic field do you suspect the watch was possibly exposed to that could impact a movement with 15,000 gauss rating? Do you work in an industry that has equipment that can produce this or anything close to it?

Seems like you are going down a rabbit hole or embarking on mythical hunt!
 
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What magnetic field do you suspect the watch was possibly exposed to that could impact a movement with 15,000 gauss rating? Do you work in an industry that has equipment that can produce this or anything close to it?

Seems like you are going down a rabbit hole or embarking on mythical hunt!
Well, I do send folks down for 3T MRIs on the daily, but I don't go with them.

I also did play with magnets to test out the movement when I first got the watch, but that was awhile ago.

Searching on various forums seem to suggest that the movement will function when exposed up to 1.5T, but I do believe that like my quoted post, that is the watch will continue to function, not that it can't be magnetized.

I read many posts saying that the watch can and can't be magnetized, but after testing, the watch was running a bit more erratic than before and was definitely throwing the compass needle off when it was passed over it. After a demagnetizing pass, it no longer affects the compass and is now running how I bought it, about 0.25s+ per day.
 
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Well, I do send folks down for 3T MRIs on the daily, but I don't go with them.

I also did play with magnets to test out the movement when I first got the watch, but that was awhile ago.

Searching on various forums seem to suggest that the movement will function when exposed up to 1.5T, but I do believe that like my quoted post, that is the watch will continue to function, not that it can't be magnetized.

I read many posts saying that the watch can and can't be magnetized, but after testing, the watch was running a bit more erratic than before and was definitely throwing the compass needle off when it was passed over it. After a demagnetizing pass, it no longer affects the compass and is now running how I bought it, about 0.25s+ per day.
Well a happy ending, +0.25 spd is impressive! Stay away from those MRI machines…AKA…Magnetic Reference Injury! ::rimshot::