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Hi all, I think you guys might’ve misunderstood the intent / the tone of my original post. I wasn’t coming from a place of malice.

even at the point of collection, I had pointed out to the watchmaker that the movement looked surprisingly silver to the naked eye, almost like stainless steel. The watchmaker then told me that the movement should be stainless steel, in spite of me showing a write up on the caliber 561 as being copper coated bronze, and other reference photos.

at that point, I had merely asked whether they might’ve replace more parts than disclosed. That’s when I got yelled at. In fact ive not made any accusations at the company, aside from asking for clarifications.

lastly, and something that I simply can’t show now, since the watch is with another watchmaker for appraisal - I’ve sent several 561 / 564s for professional overhauls at another watchmaker previously, and seen how they look like pristine. But it was not what I saw at collection this time

finally, I just wanna say I understand the ridicule, but I guarantee I’m not coming from a place of bad faith. I’ve just come out of a really really bad place in life, got something precious to celebrate, and to the best of my judgement am concerned. That’s all
 
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As @padders mentioned earlier, is that original picture of the movement a picture that you physically took yourself? Or is that a picture from the online source where you purchased the watch?
 
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but for info - I’ve since sent it to Grand Central Watch for appraisal/verification. As any NY folks will know, they are a watchmaking institution. Sent in on Wednesday. To receive next Tuesday because the watchmaker is away this week. Feel free to verify. Here’s the stub to prove
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I'm guessing that they simply rinsed it after cleaning in the wrong rinse tank and inadvertently gave it a rhodium finish.

My guesses have often been wrong though.
 
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I can confirm that this was taken myself in a white box, white filtered light, with a canon dslr

the second is taken under white light, but with the green background and unfortunately just my iPhone.

I’m seeing now how the photos can be a source of critique. Which is why I’ve sent it in for third party assessment. My point here being that I’m coming from a place of genuine concern

Trust me, the green background really messes with the white balance. That’s why I flipped my bench mat over to use the grey side.

On WUS, someone has already posted a colour corrected photo (using other parts as a reference), showing a more copper colour on the plates and bridges.

It doesn’t appear that anyone is going to convince you that the movement is fine, so not sure what you are going to do from here .
 
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but for info - I’ve since sent it to Grand Central Watch for appraisal/verification. As any NY folks will know, they are a watchmaking institution. Sent in on Wednesday.

They are total hacks. Please don't ever pay to have any work done by them.

JimInOz JimInOz
I'm guessing that they simply rinsed it after cleaning in the wrong rinse tank and inadvertently gave it a rhodium finish.

Very interesting hypothesis. 👍
 
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I’m genuinely unsure how so.

for further reference, I can also provide a screenshot of my email to the watchmaker. If anything, it’s simply to show that I had in fact checked in with them upon collection, and that they had told me the movement is stainless. Clearly, I wouldn’t have stated this to them, if it didn’t happen with them

As I said on WUS, the movement plates and bridges are made of brass, plated with the copper colour. Are you sure this was an actual watchmaker that told you this, or is this just someone who works at the counter serving customers?
 
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I’ll PM you my address. Be certain to NEVER bring a watch to me for service, puhleeze! You all ready have your brain addled with far more opinions than you can digest, but yet you go for a kill shot by taking the bloody watch to somebody else for yet another opinion, which I predict won’t fit with you, so you’ll likely ignore it. Give it up for Pete’s sake. You don’t have a leg to stand on!

While you expect this new shop will dump all over the shop who did the repair, you’ll find they don’t want to get themselves involved in a federal case they know you can’t win!
 
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Trust me, the green background really messes with the white balance. That’s why I flipped my bench mat over to use the grey side.

On WUS, someone has already posted a colour corrected photo (using other parts as a reference), showing a more copper colour on the plates and bridges.

It doesn’t appear that anyone is going to convince you that the movement is fine, so not sure what you are going to do from here .

archer thanks. I found your post on WUS and here straightforward, if not brutally honest.

I’d posted only on WUS and here, solely to get second opinions. As I’ve quickly learnt from WUS, there was a lot of discussions based on the color correctness. I’ve also realized that many of the discussions would be settled simply by waiting for the outcomes of the appraisal.

This is why at this stage, I’m merely trying to respond to the questions posed, as opposed to making additional claims or assertion.

at this stage / how bad this has gone, I’ve clearly overstated my welcome. The best outcome that could possibly happen is that I’m completely wrong, the movement is right, and I feel like an idiot. That I can live with.
 
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And I thought that Watch-up’s first post was entertaining. ::stirthepot::
 
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at this stage / how bad this has gone, I’ve clearly overstated my welcome. The best outcome that could possibly happen is that I’m completely wrong, the movement is right, and I feel like an idiot. That I can live with.

Could you, by chance, provide a different picture of the movement, with the picture in focus?
 
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Could you, by chance, provide a different picture of the movement, with the picture in focus?

unfortunately not. The watch was cased back up right after I took those at collection. And I brought it to the other place soon after.


To everyone else - this was clearly a mistake. I assumed that it would help if I tried to answer questions, I can see why it ended up looking defensive / whatever it was perceived as. I’ll close this thread once I can figure out how to on my laptop.
 
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Look at your most recent post and look for OPTIONS at the bottom of the post. Look for DELETE, Aand click,on it. You’ll be asked why you want to delete it. I leave it to you as to the reason you give.
 
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unfortunately not. The watch was cased back up right after I took those at collection. And I brought it to the other place soon after.


To everyone else - this was clearly a mistake. I assumed that it would help if I tried to answer questions, I can see why it ended up looking defensive / whatever it was perceived as. I’ll close this thread once I can figure out how to on my laptop.


For what it’s worth: unlike other marks on portions of the movement, the serial number is - of course - uniquely placed, imperfections and all.

I’d say these are more than just the same number:

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Look at your most recent post and look for OPTIONS at the bottom of the post. Look for DELETE, Aand click,on it. You’ll be asked why you want to delete it. I leave it to you as to the reason you give.

Just a final note - I've followed your instructions. however this seems only applicable to all posts, aside from the original post. There is no "delete" option for the first post.

I've edited it away to clear the content, given some concerns that this might be 'libel'.
I've also reported my own thread, and requested a mod to take it down.

thanks
 
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I gave my watchmaker a seized 564 movement, and a 752 to use as spares if need be, 1 day later he sent back my 752 with the day removed, and my 564 still seized, with the day wheel on it, the longer canon pinion on 752 screaming like a needle - he thought it was a better idea to use the 752

It's not really related to the thread, but I just wanted to take this opportunity to vent

But it also outlines how we all see the world differently, OP's 561 movement is worth $200 - but he values Omega's so much that for him it's worthy of being stolen, we value correctness so much, yet for the watchmaker I gave the movement to unseize, only functionality matters - which I knew, but I didn't think he'd charge me for a full service and just try to get away with a quick parts swap that I could've done as well

I'm just babbling and venting, no result to this post, it was also disgusting seeing how OP got treated, even if he was a troll, it doesn't matter, the decent and logical thing to do is just not to interact

Personally I just now learned about the coating and why each movement has a different shade, because of the different cleaning methods and quantities they go through ...
 
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Well cool your cancer free man. Cancer is nasty stuff someone I know went in for surgery today still waiting to hear how things came out. Seems like you are good and your watch is good so I’d say it’s all good.
You can beat it! ( the disease of course )
 
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You can beat it! ( the disease of course )
Yes I know a couple people who have, few who haven’t unfortunately. I just imagine getting the diagnosis and dealing with the treatment must be a real crappy experience for any human. Glad the OP came out the other side “cancer free” and I don’t see a big deal about him being concerned about his watch. He already said maybe he was wrong and feels like an idiot. We all make mistakes. Shoot I have never opened a watch after service to check to movement as I figure all new gaskets and what not I just leave it be. For all I know all my watches could have different movements, at least they are all running.
 
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