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  1. jeppehh Nov 18, 2019

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    Hi

    I've become interested in this lovely well worn chronograph.

    The watch looks attractive to me with a nice sharp case and once the cheese have been removed, I think it might present very well.

    I have a couple of concerns though.

    To me the dial looks genuine, but I'm pussled about the AML. All the other 174 examples I can dig up have the painted logo. Does the AML raise consern with you guys?

    I would also like to get your thoughts on the hands. Could this reference have had the syringe hands from the factory? Previously I have only found one more that didn't have alpha hands.

    Would love to get your thoughts :)

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  2. Vitezi Nov 18, 2019

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    The reference 174 is a Lemania case reference number. For unknown reasons, chronographs were produced under the 174 reference for Lemania, Omega and Tissot. You might try searching for the equivalent Omega 2451 for similar dials. I think raised logos started appearing in the early 1950s, although I am unsure when the 174 references changed over to 2451. There may have been some overlap, circa 1952. I believe the syringe hands are a correct hand type for this reference.

    See these threads for more detail:
    https://omegaforums.net/threads/circa-1940s-cal-27-chro-inner-caseback-markings.83498/
    https://omegaforums.net/threads/lem...cal-2520-ref-174-original-box-and-band.28851/
     
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  3. jeppehh Nov 18, 2019

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    Thanks for the thoughts and the links @Vitezi.

    It is a 2451 case and the serial dates it to approx 1950.

    There is a very similar configuration in AJTT but without the rounded applied logo.
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    There is also a 2279 reference with an applied logo as early as 1948 so I guess it’s not impossible that the watch in question could have come with the AML. It’s just curious that all the references I find with full radium Arabic numerals have the painted logo ::confused2::

    I’ll give it some more thought, and thanks again for the input.
     
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  4. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Nov 18, 2019

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    Certainly came with an applied logo. Not entirely sure that AJTT watch has an original dial.

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  5. jeppehh Nov 18, 2019

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    Thanks Mike

    Yes. The applied logo is definitely seen on the reference and it also seems that the style is correct for the early 50s.

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    I have just yet to find an example with full numerals that have the applied logo. All the early 50s chronos with numerals I can find have the painted logo.

    But I guess it’s just an uncommon variation, since everything else checks out. Thanks for the input.