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·hi, I've lost the crown from my 9ct gold 1937 Longines trench watch serial number 5518872 - any ideas where I might get one please, or even how I find the size, pattern and thread?
crown wanted for 1937 trench watch
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·I assume you are looking for the stem as well. If so, start by identifying the movement caliber. It might actually be stamped on the movement if you look closely, or even post some well-lit in-focus photos from various angles. Knowing the diameter of the movement can also be helpful.
Edit: I am guessing cal 27M.
https://ranfft.org/caliber/7562-Longines-27M
Edit: I am guessing cal 27M.
https://ranfft.org/caliber/7562-Longines-27M
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·I assume you are looking for the stem as well. If so, start by identifying the movement caliber. It might actually be stamped on the movement if you look closely, or even post some well-lit in-focus photos from various angles. Knowing the diameter of the movement can also be helpful.
Edit: I am guessing cal 27M.
https://ranfft.org/caliber/7562-Longines-27M
No guarantees it will fit, but perhaps an idea worth digging into further.
-Juergen
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·Some additional photos for posterity
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·I assume you are looking for the stem as well. If so, start by identifying the movement caliber. It might actually be stamped on the movement if you look closely, or even post some well-lit in-focus photos from various angles. Knowing the diameter of the movement can also be helpful.
Edit: I am guessing cal 27M.
https://ranfft.org/caliber/7562-Longines-27M
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·I assume you are looking for the stem as well. If so, start by identifying the movement caliber. It might actually be stamped on the movement if you look closely, or even post some well-lit in-focus photos from various angles. Knowing the diameter of the movement can also be helpful.
Edit: I am guessing cal 27M.
https://ranfft.org/caliber/7562-Longines-27M
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·hi, thanks for your response. I've attached another photo but having difficulty with reflective light and close-up focus. The stem appears to be still there - it's just the crown which has become loose and unthreaded itself from the end of the stem.
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·The diameter of the movement measured inside the case is 27mm
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·I assume you are looking for the stem as well. If so, start by identifying the movement caliber. It might actually be stamped on the movement if you look closely, or even post some well-lit in-focus photos from various angles. Knowing the diameter of the movement can also be helpful.
Edit: I am guessing cal 27M.
https://ranfft.org/caliber/7562-Longines-27M
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·So either you need a new crown, a new stem, or both.
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·down by the flywheel it is engraved with '27' followed by a smaller '0' or perhaps'9'
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·It’s 27.O with an O as in the French word «Or » - which means « gold ». It is a 12.68Z variant which Longines used with gold watches.
According to Patrick Linder’s authoritative book on Longines movements, published by Longines, this movement was first made in 1929.
27M is yet another - thinner —variant, based on the 27.O. The bridges look the same as 27.O, so the movements look identical.
The 27M was first produced in 1944 to accommodate demand from the American market- which accounted for half of Longines’s production in 1942.
M stands for « mince », which means « thin » in French.
Sorry, with all that I’m not sure how to help regarding your crown. it’s a nice watch; a real pity you lost it.
Perhaps try to contact Obsolete Watch Parts in the UK?
You would really need to find watchmakers who specialize in restoring old watches and who might have parts that fit.
According to Patrick Linder’s authoritative book on Longines movements, published by Longines, this movement was first made in 1929.
27M is yet another - thinner —variant, based on the 27.O. The bridges look the same as 27.O, so the movements look identical.
The 27M was first produced in 1944 to accommodate demand from the American market- which accounted for half of Longines’s production in 1942.
M stands for « mince », which means « thin » in French.
Sorry, with all that I’m not sure how to help regarding your crown. it’s a nice watch; a real pity you lost it.
Perhaps try to contact Obsolete Watch Parts in the UK?
You would really need to find watchmakers who specialize in restoring old watches and who might have parts that fit.
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·It’s 27.O with an O as in the French word «Or » - which means « gold ». It is a 12.68Z variant which Longines used with gold watches.
According to Patrick Linder’s authoritative book on Longines movements, published by Longines, this movement was first made in 1929.
27M is yet another - thinner —variant, based on the 27.O. The bridges look the same as 27.O, so the movements look identical.
The 27M was first produced in 1944 to accommodate demand from the American market- which accounted for half of Longines’s production in 1942.
M stands for « mince », which means « thin » in French.
Sorry, with all that I’m not sure how to help regarding your crown. it’s a nice watch; a real pity you lost it.
Perhaps try to contact Obsolete Watch Parts in the UK?
You would really need to find watchmakers who specialize in restoring old watches and who might have parts that fit.
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·I actually just bought a near identical example, in what seems to be very original condition, right down to original strap and buckle. If the crown on mine is original, then it appears identical to the one used on 13ZN examples in the same period, as well as early 30CH watches. If so, they’re quite expensive but occasionally turn up: https://ebay.us/m/YavCOS
No guarantees it will fit, but perhaps an idea worth digging into further.
-Juergen
I would caution against the assumption that a similar looking 13ZN crown would fit the OP’s movement.
One of my pals who commissioned beautiful and well regarded repro steel crowns for the WWII British military Longines 6B/159 non Weems and the Longines Weems found out they’re not interchangeable despite looking identical, for the same movement.
From what I remember there are differences in the stems.
That being said, his advice might be useful if perhaps the OP @[email protected]. would lik to commission a custom repro crown from a third party, even though it might be a bit of a project.
His name is Antoine on the Military Watch Ressource Forum, or Latriaz on Ebay.
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/195949356205?_skw=longines+weems+crown&itmmeta=01KEFP3XPNGF6PC59VHYZPWFYR&hash=item2d9f7de4ad:g:EW8AAOSwZnZk5wFP&itmprp=enc:AQAKAAAA0FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1e7bospGJzwthdymvQWtEgz0FzQaudcy3LSeHndnfyug1xgGuqIsqlrPNgHBAh9vTAp/nr5TXBShjemLdIYMsDl7q4dMW0WIkHXQm9hqW/XE/l84vgL/EzH7SCWBuK8MJhVLQPqai9MHzcXUk9e7VfVfJcmBGYd6tUgjH/2GVrUMEQdWiK/TqbF1mzpVFWkQBP+zJOmSY1I78JXm+wc+jiHs88V78TtSvPT+2BCTIKIF1/XhY98oMSaqAHyS5Volxc=|tkp:Bk9SR7zbj_bzZg
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·pS this is a lovely watch too, and with a beautiful crown.
I would caution against the assumption that a similar looking 13ZN crown would fit the OP’s movement.
One of my pals who commissioned beautiful and well regarded repro steel crowns for the WWII British military Longines 6B/159 non Weems and the Longines Weems found out they’re not interchangeable despite looking identical, for the same movement.
From what I remember there are differences in the stems.
That being said, his advice might be useful if perhaps the OP @[email protected]. would lik to commission a custom repro crown from a third party, even though it might be a bit of a project.
His name is Antoine on the Military Watch Ressource Forum, or Latriaz on Ebay.
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/195949356205?_skw=longines+weems+crown&itmmeta=01KEFP3XPNGF6PC59VHYZPWFYR&hash=item2d9f7de4ad:g:EW8AAOSwZnZk5wFP&itmprp=enc:AQAKAAAA0FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1e7bospGJzwthdymvQWtEgz0FzQaudcy3LSeHndnfyug1xgGuqIsqlrPNgHBAh9vTAp/nr5TXBShjemLdIYMsDl7q4dMW0WIkHXQm9hqW/XE/l84vgL/EzH7SCWBuK8MJhVLQPqai9MHzcXUk9e7VfVfJcmBGYd6tUgjH/2GVrUMEQdWiK/TqbF1mzpVFWkQBP+zJOmSY1I78JXm+wc+jiHs88V78TtSvPT+2BCTIKIF1/XhY98oMSaqAHyS5Volxc=|tkp:Bk9SR7zbj_bzZg
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·pS this is a lovely watch too, and with a beautiful crown.
I would caution against the assumption that a similar looking 13ZN crown would fit the OP’s movement.
One of my pals who commissioned beautiful and well regarded repro steel crowns for the WWII British military Longines 6B/159 non Weems and the Longines Weems found out they’re not interchangeable despite looking identical, for the same movement.
From what I remember there are differences in the stems.
That being said, his advice might be useful if perhaps the OP @[email protected]. would lik to commission a custom repro crown from a third party, even though it might be a bit of a project.
His name is Antoine on the Military Watch Ressource Forum, or Latriaz on Ebay.
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/195949356205?_skw=longines+weems+crown&itmmeta=01KEFP3XPNGF6PC59VHYZPWFYR&hash=item2d9f7de4ad:g:EW8AAOSwZnZk5wFP&itmprp=enc:AQAKAAAA0FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1e7bospGJzwthdymvQWtEgz0FzQaudcy3LSeHndnfyug1xgGuqIsqlrPNgHBAh9vTAp/nr5TXBShjemLdIYMsDl7q4dMW0WIkHXQm9hqW/XE/l84vgL/EzH7SCWBuK8MJhVLQPqai9MHzcXUk9e7VfVfJcmBGYd6tUgjH/2GVrUMEQdWiK/TqbF1mzpVFWkQBP+zJOmSY1I78JXm+wc+jiHs88V78TtSvPT+2BCTIKIF1/XhY98oMSaqAHyS5Volxc=|tkp:Bk9SR7zbj_bzZg
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