Could I ask an opinion on this please for condition and value??

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Probably will seem expensive to the non UK owners, where everything here seems more expensive?!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENTS-VIN...es_Watches_MensWatches_GL&hash=item485ea420d1

I was thinking of maybe buying this as a 'cheaper' first vintage watch to use now and again and then get a more modern Omega to wear for everyday occasions where I won't be worried if it gets wet!

Does this look any good chaps?!

Spike
 
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Just noted a defect on the back of the case, is that something that should be a concern?
 
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For collectible item it is a concern. For daily wearer, not so, since the damage does not come through inside the case back.
The case looks decent. The movement looks fine. The dial looks original, or if it is refinished it is a damn good one. It has big logo case back which is desirable.
As the price, it is too high for me, let the other give their opinion.
 
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Thanks for that............that marking is a concern to me as well and I don't know what I'm looking at!

I guess if it was really good value I could ignore it but I don't really want to start off we something that I don't feel good or happy about.

I'll be interested to see what/if any UK owners think of it for value bearing in mind the prices over here.
 
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That's not too expensive for a large logo Seamaster. Did that reference come with that style crown?

I'm mostly worried about the dial. When did Omega dot their e's? The quality of the print and the lume in the 12 markers make me think that's not an original dial.
 
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I'm mostly worried about the dial. When did Omega dot their e's? The quality of the print and the lume in the 12 markers make me think that's not an original dial.

And, yet again, it's a black dial. All the more reason to be cautious. But as Dennis says, the price is fine for the UK, if the dial was genuine. The crown is correct according to the OVD illustration for the 2849.
 
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mmm, seems like there is enough reason to doubt the originality of the dial then.......coupled with the tarnishing to the case, I'm getting less enthusiastic minute by minute.......
 
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Printing looks a little thick and sloppy, looks like 3 minute marks on the left side of the 12 marker and 4 on the right? Hard to tell from the pictures.
 
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It certainly looks like that Kyle, do they call you hawk eyes?

If I hang around here I'm going to learn a lot...

Thanks again everyone..........I think I'll pass on this and keep looking

Cheers!
 
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You would also expect "T SWISS MADE T" as it looks like both the hands and dial are lumed.
 
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Refinished dial.

Silver print should be under the black, not printed on it.
 
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Refinished dial.

Silver print should be under the black, not printed on it.
Is there a trick to tell if it's under
I've always wondered about this
 
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Is there a trick to tell if it's under
I've always wondered about this


You need a loupe or some really good macros. It's not hard to spot with magnification.
 
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You need a loupe or some really good macros. It's not hard to spot with magnification.
what are you looking for?
The silver to be lower?
 
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On this type of dial the silver (or gold) was the base finish on the dial and the black was some sort of plating done over the base layer.

The printing appears perfectly smooth and flush with the surface of the dial since the top plating is only a couple microns thick.

Here are some shots of a 14765 Seamaster from 1961.

 
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On this type of dial the silver (or gold) was the base finish on the dial and the black was some sort of plating done over the base layer.

The printing appears perfectly smooth and flush with the surface of the dial since the top plating is only a couple microns thick.

Here are some shots of a 14765 Seamaster from 1961.

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Great explanation! Thanks.
I think I see it on the minute hashes
but looking at Seamaster it's hard to
tell. I guess you need to see it in 3-D