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Could I ask an opinion on this please for condition and value??

  1. Spike Dec 20, 2013

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    Probably will seem expensive to the non UK owners, where everything here seems more expensive?!

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    I was thinking of maybe buying this as a 'cheaper' first vintage watch to use now and again and then get a more modern Omega to wear for everyday occasions where I won't be worried if it gets wet!

    Does this look any good chaps?!

    Spike
     
  2. Spike Dec 20, 2013

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    Just noted a defect on the back of the case, is that something that should be a concern?
     
  3. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Dec 20, 2013

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    For collectible item it is a concern. For daily wearer, not so, since the damage does not come through inside the case back.
    The case looks decent. The movement looks fine. The dial looks original, or if it is refinished it is a damn good one. It has big logo case back which is desirable.
    As the price, it is too high for me, let the other give their opinion.
     
  4. Spike Dec 20, 2013

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    Thanks for that............that marking is a concern to me as well and I don't know what I'm looking at!

    I guess if it was really good value I could ignore it but I don't really want to start off we something that I don't feel good or happy about.

    I'll be interested to see what/if any UK owners think of it for value bearing in mind the prices over here.
     
  5. ulackfocus Dec 20, 2013

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    That's not too expensive for a large logo Seamaster. Did that reference come with that style crown?

    I'm mostly worried about the dial. When did Omega dot their e's? The quality of the print and the lume in the 12 markers make me think that's not an original dial.
     
  6. John R Smith Dec 20, 2013

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    And, yet again, it's a black dial. All the more reason to be cautious. But as Dennis says, the price is fine for the UK, if the dial was genuine. The crown is correct according to the OVD illustration for the 2849.
     
  7. Spike Dec 20, 2013

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    mmm, seems like there is enough reason to doubt the originality of the dial then.......coupled with the tarnishing to the case, I'm getting less enthusiastic minute by minute.......
     
  8. kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Dec 20, 2013

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    Printing looks a little thick and sloppy, looks like 3 minute marks on the left side of the 12 marker and 4 on the right? Hard to tell from the pictures.
     
  9. Spike Dec 20, 2013

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    It certainly looks like that Kyle, do they call you hawk eyes?

    If I hang around here I'm going to learn a lot...

    Thanks again everyone..........I think I'll pass on this and keep looking

    Cheers!
     
  10. pitpro Likes the game. Dec 20, 2013

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    Marker placement way off at 4 and 5 o'clock
     
  11. Lex4TDI4Life Dec 20, 2013

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    You would also expect "T SWISS MADE T" as it looks like both the hands and dial are lumed.
     
  12. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Dec 20, 2013

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    Refinished dial.

    Silver print should be under the black, not printed on it.
     
  13. pitpro Likes the game. Dec 20, 2013

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    Is there a trick to tell if it's under
    I've always wondered about this
     
  14. ulackfocus Dec 20, 2013

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    You need a loupe or some really good macros. It's not hard to spot with magnification.
     
  15. pitpro Likes the game. Dec 20, 2013

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    what are you looking for?
    The silver to be lower?
     
  16. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Dec 20, 2013

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    On this type of dial the silver (or gold) was the base finish on the dial and the black was some sort of plating done over the base layer.

    The printing appears perfectly smooth and flush with the surface of the dial since the top plating is only a couple microns thick.

    Here are some shots of a 14765 Seamaster from 1961.

    IMG_4261.JPG IMG_4264.JPG IMG_4265.JPG IMG_4266.JPG IMG_4267.JPG IMG_4155.JPG
     
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  17. pitpro Likes the game. Dec 20, 2013

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    Great explanation! Thanks.
    I think I see it on the minute hashes
    but looking at Seamaster it's hard to
    tell. I guess you need to see it in 3-D
     
  18. scotty Dec 20, 2013

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    Excellent info and pics! :thumbsup:
     
  19. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Dec 21, 2013

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    Gilt dial.... OP need to have better pic to observe that