Constellation with italics - why?

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The dial is one of (it not, the) major component of a watch. Rather than buying this, then spending a significant amount of money having head office refinish the dial (which will then look better but will be a redial nonetheless), why not buy an original one?

How rare are they?

Tom
 
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I put this in Italics to follow the proper form of the seller 馃槜, however I must disrepectfully agree with the statement and the sellers description. 馃憥

Great radar! I think this watch must be very similar indeed to the one I was looking at earlier... 馃槖
 
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How rare are they?

Tom

How long would a restoration with dial refinishing take at Omega?
 
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How long would a restoration with dial refinishing take at Omega?

Less than a year, I should think. I've had a Speedmaster service take 6 or 7 months.

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Rught. There's a reasonable chance of finding one of these with an original dial within a year.

Even if the right example took longer to locate, I'd pay that price for an original dial.
 
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Rught. There's a reasonable chance of finding one of these with an original dial within a year.

Even if the right example took longer to locate, I'd pay that price for an original dial.

I suspect you'll look down at me but a factory redail doesn't bother me for a watch I'm going to wear... and I wear pretty much everything I have unless I'm looking to sell it.

Now, mind, I said a factory redial.

But I am just not a collector and truly don't understand firstly the collector mentality and secondly what people talk themselves into that is OK. Like putting those ugly straps on vintage watches when NOS vintage examples are available.

I drive my watchmaker nuts because I always want to relume any watch with deal lume. 馃榿

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I suspect you'll look down at me but a factory redail doesn't bother me for a watch I'm going to wear... and I wear pretty much everything I have unless I'm looking to sell it.

Now, mind, I said a factory redial.

But I am just not a collector and truly don't understand firstly the collector mentality and secondly what people talk themselves into that is OK. Like putting those ugly straps on vintage watches when NOS vintage examples are available.

I drive my watchmaker nuts because I always want to relume any watch with deal lume. 馃榿

Tom

I understand you like a factory service along with new parts and don't understand why vintage collectors favour original dials in average condition over brand new service dials etc.

However, in this case I think decent, original examples of this ref are available for the cost/effort required to equip this with a service/factory redial.

I'll admit I'm making assumptions here as I don't know the asking price.
 
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I understand you like a factory service along with new parts and don't understand why vintage collectors favour original dials in average condition over brand new service dials etc.

However, in this case I think decent, original examples of this ref are available for the cost/effort required to equip this with a service/factory redial.

I'll admit I'm making assumptions here as I don't know the asking price.

I do get it and I don't. It's your money and you spend it however you like. All original and I can afford it, fine. Speedmasters for $20k? Insane and I don't see why anyone would spend that kind of money.

A wristwatch is primarily a device for telling time. Movement parts get replaced all the time (no pun intended) to facilitate good timekeeping. You already have a bad redial, why not make it a good redial? Corroded hands replaced with service hands that are identical, I'm not complaining.

The watch in question is selling for a bit over $2k.

Tom
 
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I suspect you'll look down at me but a factory redail doesn't bother me for a watch I'm going to wear... and I wear pretty much everything I have unless I'm looking to sell it.

Now, mind, I said a factory redial.

But I am just not a collector and truly don't understand firstly the collector mentality and secondly what people talk themselves into that is OK. Like putting those ugly straps on vintage watches when NOS vintage examples are available.

I drive my watchmaker nuts because I always want to relume any watch with deal lume. 馃榿

Tom

I think you've got a very fair and balanced approach, and good luck and good health to you. But there's re-dialling and there's ruining. I just don't like it when dealers assume we're all idiots or have poor eyesight or something! None of us has time to out all of them, but I just boiled over that one time. Thanks for getting involved with some fun discussion! Peace out.
 
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But there's re-dialling and there's ruining.

Yeah, that dial is just wrong. I wonder what it looked like originally?

I have a Hamilton Greenwich where I replaced a bad redial with a better redial... and new lume. Hopefully some day I might find a nice woman who will wear it with pride.

Tom
 
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Omega does not refinish dials, they contract this out and I have yet to see a good one come from them. Since their contractors do not have original plates, they are no better than your average (and sometimes below average) re-finisher.
 
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So send a ruined watch it to Bienne, spend, what, $1k then have a slightly less ruined watch but still an identifiable redial? Not a great plan IMO.
 
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Other than the dial, what's wrong with it?

It's overpolished and it is fitted with a Zenith crown. The seller doesn't offer pics of the movement, so who knows about that.

As to the dial, the pie pan edges are very dull, nearly indistinguishable. Probably because the dial has been polished too. So even if you were to try redialling it again (all those arguing against it are offering very sound advice imo) you would fail getting the contours back.
 
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Other than the dial, what's wrong with it? If I wanted that (well I do but no $$$) I might have Omega refinish the dial and wear it...

Tom

Why waste time and money putting lipstick on a pig? (Someone's already polished the turd)
 
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Why waste time and money putting lipstick on a pig? (Someone's already polished the turd)
Why being so harsh about Elisabeth?