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BroMega
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Here's a Constellation I'm watching on ebay. It's a redial but looks good enough for a simple soul such as myself. (apart perhaps from the fact that it's Swis Ade) He wants 1599£ so a certain amount of crack cocaine seems to have been present during the pricing but offers are accepted. I'm still at the starting point of my Omega owning career so not really sure what would be a fair offer. Any tips on that?

But mainly, as seen in thread title, I'm wondering how hard it is to come by one of those little stars. One would think damn hard since seller didn't find one to put there before listing, but then again, perhaps he's just lazy.


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speedb
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The only way you will get another star for the dial is by buying a parts watch, which will put your costs stupidly high. You can get nice RG/SS constellations with original white dials around the price you have suggested.
 
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The only way you will get another star for the dial is by buying a parts watch, which will put your costs stupidly high. You can get nice RG/SS constellations with original white dials around the price you have suggested.

Thanks! I wasn't going to pay what he asked, just offer what would be reasonable considering the apparent flaws.

Yes, I'm aware of that but being an idiot, I want a black dial...
 
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Seems like a lot of effort when they’ll almost certainly reject a lowball offer which is only what it’s worth.

In general terms it’s always easier and cheaper to start with a good example rather than trying to restore/improve a dog.
 
BroMega
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Seems like a lot of effort when they’ll almost certainly reject a lowball offer which is only what it’s worth.

In general terms it’s always easier and cheaper to start with a good example rather than trying to restore/improve a dog.

Yeah, I guess you're right.. But sometimes the voice of reason needs to come from outside ones brain.
 
johnireland
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If you really like the watch, and you can get it for a price you are happy with, then don't worry about the star...either one shows up in the future or it doesn't. In the meantime, 99.99% of the world will neither know or care...they'll just think "what a great looking watch." By the way, the last "s" is Swiss and the "M" in Made, based on the photo, look to be just under or partially under the 6 marker. Is the movement in good shape, have you felt it wind and set, and watched it run? Or does the seller offer a return policy and a service history? Does the dealer have good references? When buying a vintage watch, these are equally important questions. Come back with the answers to those questions and it will be easier to give you an idea of a price to offer. But always know, you will pay more than the watch is worth...that is how the dealer makes a living.
 
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I don’t believe that they are Constellation indices.
 
johnireland
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If we know something for a fact, I feel that can be very helpful to the OP. But our "guesses" or "suspicions" or "what we believe" or any other undocumented points of view, are nice to read but not to act on...except for all of us to do more research.
 
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johnireland johnireland
If we know something for a fact, I feel that can be very helpful to the OP. But our "guesses" or "suspicions" or "what we believe" or any other undocumented points of view, are nice to read but not to act on...except for all of us to do more research.

Take your own advice. Surely you can see this watch is garbage. What is the point of offering 1/5 of the asking price, which is the most any of us would pay.

And if @Peemacgee says "I believe" wrt a Constellation ... I believe. Pay attention to your surroundings.
 
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That’s a lot for a watch that’s been admitted as a redial. If the hands have lost their lume, what might that tell you about the condition of the rest of the watch? I’d move on from it, unless you really like it, in which case wear and enjoy it!
 
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I don’t believe that they are Constellation indices.

Agree.

And even if they were correct, the hands would likely to be incorrect as those indices weren't made to hold lume.

Garbage watch.
 
BroMega
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If you really like the watch, and you can get it for a price you are happy with, then don't worry about the star...either one shows up in the future or it doesn't. In the meantime, 99.99% of the world will neither know or care...they'll just think "what a great looking watch." By the way, the last "s" is Swiss and the "M" in Made, based on the photo, look to be just under or partially under the 6 marker. Is the movement in good shape, have you felt it wind and set, and watched it run? Or does the seller offer a return policy and a service history? Does the dealer have good references? When buying a vintage watch, these are equally important questions. Come back with the answers to those questions and it will be easier to give you an idea of a price to offer. But always know, you will pay more than the watch is worth...that is how the dealer makes a living.

Solid reasoning. And yeah, they're under the six, I was just kidding. Also, I was just curious as to how hard it would be to find a star which of course would factor in as to how much one would be willing to pay. Dude comes across as somewhat of a used car salesman so I agree with others here as well, he's not likely to take my offer. Let's just hope some poor schmuck doesn't pay what he's asking at least. As for paying more than it's worth, I only ever consider what things are worth to me so it's just a question of how much do I want it and how much more than it's worth am I willing to pay. In this case certainly not THAT much more...

Thanks everyone for opinions and advice. Most helpful!
 
johnireland
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The OP describes the seller as a bit of a used car salesman. That is reason enough to walk away. As an old saying goes...buy the seller and not the watch. I have never had a problem with redials if they are done well and acknowledged upfront as such. Then it becomes a matter of how much I really like that particular watch...all shortcomings noted. Same with "patina." If a watch shows honest wear but runs well and still resembles its youth, and it is attractive to me and something I'll enjoy seeing on my wrist...I'll buy it...and march to my own drummer.
 
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This is how franken masters from the East make a living. 😁
 
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I would pass, unless I really wanted a black dial, which is very hard to find in its original decent form.
 
gbesq
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Pass and wait for something better. Along with the observatory medallion on the case back, the star is a defining characteristic of the Constellation. Buying this watch and settling for less is just setting yourself up for future disappointment when you see a better example - and eventually you will.
 
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