Constellation pie pan redial?

PlainVanilla · Nov 18, 2022

Hello everyone!

I do not intend to buy this watch, I'm just practicing.

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To me, it fails the MOY test, the minute markers are a bit weird and the overall finish, I'm not sure. I think this is a redial but I suck at Constellation watches. What are your thoughts?

Ravineman · Nov 18, 2022

My guess is it's an older redial

Zapatta · Nov 18, 2022

It was also posted in my local fb group. Imo its a redial

PlainVanilla · Nov 18, 2022

Thank you. So I'm not that bad after all!

MtV · Nov 18, 2022

Yup, this one‘s no good. Compare:

1. MOY, no serifs, positions of letters/distance to one another is all over the place.

2. Positioning of Swiss Made, length of minute ticks. Note that original dials have thicker minute ticks every 5 minutes through which the thinner cross hair is drawn. There is no such thicker tick at 30min of the redial.

3. Compare the font and look closely. Note the n‘s aren’t as closed as they should be by their right „leg“? The „e“ is different too, the line coming from the t continues in an upward angle in the original while it’s almost horizontal in the redial.

I find those direct comparisons the easiest way to compare. Plenty of examples around here that you know are legit, just make sure to pick a suitable one (same ref, style, etc)

PlainVanilla · Nov 18, 2022

MtV
Yup, this one‘s no good. Compare:

1. MOY, no serifs, positions of letters/distance to one another is all over the place.

2. Positioning of Swiss Made, length of minute ticks. Note that original dials have thicker minute ticks every 5 minutes through which the thinner cross hair is drawn. There is no such thicker tick at 30min of the redial.

3. Compare the font and look closely. Note the n‘s aren’t as closed as they should be by their right „leg“? The „e“ is different too, the line coming from the t continues in an upward angle in the original while it’s almost horizontal in the redial.

I find those direct comparisons the easiest way to compare. Plenty of examples around here that you know are legit, just make sure to pick a suitable one (same ref, style, etc)

And that's how the magic is done! Thank you.

MtV · Nov 18, 2022

Meh, the pictures looked sharp on my phone. Apologies for the quality...

PlainVanilla · Nov 18, 2022

No it's perfect, don't worry. I can see everything you describe on these pictures.

X350 XJR · Nov 18, 2022

Aside from details previously noted, there should be lume in the notches.

And even if it had a nice original dial the case is so heavily polished it would be a pass for me.

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Constellation pie pan redial?

PlainVanilla

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MtV

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