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  1. vicsdca Dec 18, 2019

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    https://www.ebay.com/itm/OMEGA-CONS...TO-DATE-14-k-GOLD-S-S-1963-WATCH/312885756104Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

    The dial says "swiss made," but there's no T for tritium. I'm therefore assuming the lume dots contain radium, but how could they look so nice after all these years? Seller says dial has never been redone. Something does not add up. The lugs are super sharp too, which I find incredible. It makes me wonder, can this be a fake case and a redial, contrary to what the seller is claiming ? The seller has been selling a ton of vintage Omega watches on eBay. Where does he find those almost new old stock watches? Also, I'm aware of the MOY test, but all the pictures of the watch are at an angle and the seller did not reply to my message when I asked for a centered picture of the dial. It's a lot of questions for a first post, but you get the idea. Am I right to be suspicious? Please let me know what you think about this watch and the seller in general if you have any information.

    Thank you!
     
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  2. redpcar Dec 18, 2019

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  3. redpcar Dec 18, 2019

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  4. Mac5 Dec 18, 2019

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    No face on pics. Hard to tell. I wouldn't spend that kind of money without seeing close up shots of the face.
     
  5. VetPsychWars Wants to be in the club! Dec 18, 2019

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    It's certainly possible that it's real. Just because a lot of people couldn't take care of their watches properly doesn't mean that no one did. Put that watch in its box in the back of your sock drawer and it will look the same after ten years.

    But it would be good to see the dial straight-on up close.

    Tom
     
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  6. VetPsychWars Wants to be in the club! Dec 18, 2019

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    Yes, certainly. It's not the radiation that kills the lume, it's the combination of sunlight and oxydation.

    I once had a Westclox Type 4 Loud Alarm. They stopped making these before WWII. I don't know where this clock was stored but the lume was FLAWLESS and still glowed, because it's not the radium that gives up, it's the paint it's illuminating.

    Mind you, it's rare, but it does happen.

    Tom
     
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  7. Dan S Dec 18, 2019

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    Sketchy auction. Zero-feedback bidder ran up the price. Prepare to see this one re-listed.
     
  8. redpcar Dec 18, 2019

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    I would say near dishonest.
     
  9. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Dec 18, 2019

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    Seller is known for selling black redial "Don Draper" Seamasters for stupid bidder money. :rolleyes:
     
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  10. Vanallard Dec 24, 2019

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  11. Peter_from_NL Dec 24, 2019

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    With my NL account I see it popping up for eur 1550.
     
  12. padders Oooo subtitles! Dec 24, 2019

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    That will likely be tritium lume not radium, the dog legs mostly are and the serial suggests it too. The Ts came later and the lack of them doesn’t mean a lot. I too think that listing is suspect. Omegas were still being made in the 1990s with tritium lume and no T marks btw.
     
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  13. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Dec 25, 2019

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    Looks correct and original to me.
     
  14. redpcar Dec 28, 2019

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    It's back. Who could have possibly guessed? :rolleyes:
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    Think seller will be satisfied with a true market price or manufacture bids?
    Here we go again
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  15. Dan S Dec 28, 2019

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    There is a new zero-feedback bidder participating in this auction.
     
  16. Dan S Dec 28, 2019

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    Try researching SOLD eBay listings and auction sales, with appropriate adjustments for condition. I doubt too many experts are going to publish their views in a searchable forum during the course of a running auction.
     
  17. redpcar Dec 28, 2019

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    I would look at the original completed version of this auction. Do you see where the real bidders stopped and the imaginary kept going?
    The final bid was $2,300 but then somehow magically went back to $2000. Strange
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  18. Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Dec 28, 2019

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    see @redpcar ’s post above.
    This is a nice but not spectacular watch, so even $1,250 is a strong price IMHO.
     
  19. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Dec 28, 2019

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    If you have one like that, would you sell for $1250?
     
  20. Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Dec 28, 2019

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    Well, as I said it’s a quite nice watch.
    It has a nice dial but is gold capped, has at least one soft lug , an ok bezel, a replaced rotor and an irregular (if potentially correct) crown.

    As I don’t sell my watches, it’s not a question as to whether I would sell this watch at $1250 but more a case of would I buy this watch at $1250 and the answer would be probably not.hence my conclusion that it would be a strong price.

    However, if you’re in the market for a gold capped pie pan dogleg then I could understand why someone might pay $1250 for it.