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Constellation on eBay (too good to be true?)

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/OMEGA-CONS...TO-DATE-14-k-GOLD-S-S-1963-WATCH/312885756104

The dial says "swiss made," but there's no T for tritium. I'm therefore assuming the lume dots contain radium, but how could they look so nice after all these years? Seller says dial has never been redone. Something does not add up. The lugs are super sharp too, which I find incredible. It makes me wonder, can this be a fake case and a redial, contrary to what the seller is claiming ? The seller has been selling a ton of vintage Omega watches on eBay. Where does he find those almost new old stock watches? Also, I'm aware of the MOY test, but all the pictures of the watch are at an angle and the seller did not reply to my message when I asked for a centered picture of the dial. It's a lot of questions for a first post, but you get the idea. Am I right to be suspicious? Please let me know what you think about this watch and the seller in general if you have any information.

Thank you!
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No face on pics. Hard to tell. I wouldn't spend that kind of money without seeing close up shots of the face.
 
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It's certainly possible that it's real. Just because a lot of people couldn't take care of their watches properly doesn't mean that no one did. Put that watch in its box in the back of your sock drawer and it will look the same after ten years.

But it would be good to see the dial straight-on up close.

Tom
 
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vicsdca vicsdca
Can lume dots be preserved like that ?

Yes, certainly. It's not the radiation that kills the lume, it's the combination of sunlight and oxydation.

I once had a Westclox Type 4 Loud Alarm. They stopped making these before WWII. I don't know where this clock was stored but the lume was FLAWLESS and still glowed, because it's not the radium that gives up, it's the paint it's illuminating.

Mind you, it's rare, but it does happen.

Tom
 
Dan S
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Sketchy auction. Zero-feedback bidder ran up the price. Prepare to see this one re-listed.
 
X350 XJR
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Seller is known for selling black redial "Don Draper" Seamasters for stupid bidder money. 馃檮
 
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That will likely be tritium lume not radium, the dog legs mostly are and the serial suggests it too. The Ts came later and the lack of them doesn鈥檛 mean a lot. I too think that listing is suspect. Omegas were still being made in the 1990s with tritium lume and no T marks btw.
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redpcar
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It's back. Who could have possibly guessed? 馃檮
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Think seller will be satisfied with a true market price or manufacture bids?
Here we go again
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Dan S
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redpcar redpcar
It's back. Who could have possibly guessed? 馃檮
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Think seller will be satisfied with a true market price or manufacture bids?
Here we go again
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There is a new zero-feedback bidder participating in this auction.
 
Dan S
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What I'd like to know is what the true market price of this watch actually is.

Try researching SOLD eBay listings and auction sales, with appropriate adjustments for condition. I doubt too many experts are going to publish their views in a searchable forum during the course of a running auction.
 
redpcar
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I would look at the original completed version of this auction. Do you see where the real bidders stopped and the imaginary kept going?
The final bid was $2,300 but then somehow magically went back to $2000. Strange
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vicsdca vicsdca
What I'd like to know is what the true market price of this watch actually is.

see @redpcar 鈥檚 post above.
This is a nice but not spectacular watch, so even $1,250 is a strong price IMHO.
 
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Peemacgee Peemacgee
see @redpcar 鈥檚 post above.
This is a nice but not spectacular watch, so even $1,250 is a strong price IMHO.
If you have one like that, would you sell for $1250?
 
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If you have one like that, would you sell for $1250?

Well, as I said it鈥檚 a quite nice watch.
It has a nice dial but is gold capped, has at least one soft lug , an ok bezel, a replaced rotor and an irregular (if potentially correct) crown.

As I don鈥檛 sell my watches, it鈥檚 not a question as to whether I would sell this watch at $1250 but more a case of would I buy this watch at $1250 and the answer would be probably not.hence my conclusion that it would be a strong price.

However, if you鈥檙e in the market for a gold capped pie pan dogleg then I could understand why someone might pay $1250 for it.
 
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