Constellation Jumbo 168.001 or Dog Leg 168.005

Bruce235

I would guess water damage too which means you really need to see the movement. It may not be nice in there.
Jumbos are sought after right up there with dog legs and pie pans. Some folks collect all of them.

Bruce235

That's not a real rating sorry I just meant the damage would stop getting top collector value for it

dsio

For me I’d get the 001, way better value

RoadRunner73

I haven't got any statistics so far, but I believe produced volumes of 168.005 are likely to be far higher than of 001, right ? and probably much less in "capped gold" vs "ST"

MtV

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Edit: Yeah, just saw that the seller is now asking 3150€. That’s a hard pass.

MtV

Oh, an OF watch comes back:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/jumbo-omega-constellation-168-001.122813/

I bought it from @Shabbaz 3 years ago. The crown and a rather uncommon 18mm buckle were added by my. Here’s the full serial for comparison, and you can also spot the dial damage on the wrist shot:


I never really could unsee the dial damage and ended up trading it in, I believe for a SS example. It went to a Dutch dealer, which must have been late 2021 or so, about a year later.

So, this unfortunate late uncle couldn’t have enjoyed it for very long.

Generally, if I had to pick one it’d be the jumbo
Connie. Just a different animal, and especially in GC tough to find while the doglegs were produced in large numbers. Wrist presence like no other Constellation from the time. And looks super classy. However, as stated above, the dial of the one above ended up a dealbreaker for me. It’s up to you to decide if this is the case here, and it also depends on the price very much, you can see the old price in the FS ad linked above.

I’d also ask the seller 1-2 questions I think. Hope this doesn’t come across disrespectful, the story might well be true, but the late-uncle-story together with the recent “checking/cleaning” (the usual euphemism for service that actually wasn’t one) of the watch, which the heir did have done… I don’t know. It rings quite a few alarm bells. If it checks out, great, but I’d want to know.

Edit: Yeah, just saw that the seller is now asking 3150€. That’s a hard pass.

RoadRunner73

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So if I get it right, this ref. 24454640 had been on the market already some 3 years ago ...

RoadRunner73

It's actually all in the title !
I fell in love with the Constellations, and have read already quite some informations on these, mainly most of the massive amount of documentation that Desmond has gathered so fantastically on the Connies ! Thousand Thanks to him for this !
Until recently, I had been concentrating on the "mainstream" models, e.g. the Dog Legged ones, Cal. 561 primarily, gold capped being my preferred ones ; but then I have suddenly come accross a gold capped Jumbo one, so the 168.001 (37mm without crown) which is known to have been produced for the Asian market.

So I am now in the usual tricky situation : I truely love the Pan Pie dials and the Dog Legs, but the very simple dial of the Jumbo is also something gorgeous, (though maybe a bit more classic, less "Connie" ?) so isn't the 168.001 a more collectible model ?

Further question : everything seems OK with this watch, except the outer part of the dial (Silver) is deteriorated : any guess as to what it could be ? Moisture due to a cracked gasket ? The seller inherited it from his late uncle, and history has gone with him... I would not mind too much as long as the progression of what seems to be a corrosion is stopped and some conservation is done. Or could it be that only the laquer on the silver has been attacked ? I am waiting for further close-up pictures, but in the meantime, I would be grateful for your valued opinions to help me make up my mind !
Many thanks in anticipation !

RoadRunner73

It's actually all in the title !
I fell in love with the Constellations, and have read already quite some informations on these, mainly most of the massive amount of documentation that Desmond has gathered so fantastically on the Connies ! Thousand Thanks to him for this !
Until recently, I had been concentrating on the "mainstream" models, e.g. the Dog Legged ones, Cal. 561 primarily, gold capped being my preferred ones ; but then I have suddenly come accross a gold capped Jumbo one, so the 168.001 (37mm without crown) which is known to have been produced for the Asian market.

So I am now in the usual tricky situation : I truely love the Pan Pie dials and the Dog Legs, but the very simple dial of the Jumbo is also something gorgeous, (though maybe a bit more classic, less "Connie" ?) so isn't the 168.001 a more collectible model ?

Further question : everything seems OK with this watch, except the outer part of the dial (Silver) is deteriorated : any guess as to what it could be ? Moisture due to a cracked gasket ? The seller inherited it from his late uncle, and history has gone with him... I would not mind too much as long as the progression of what seems to be a corrosion is stopped and some conservation is done. Or could it be that only the laquer on the silver has been attacked ? I am waiting for further close-up pictures, but in the meantime, I would be grateful for your valued opinions to help me make up my mind !
Many thanks in anticipation !