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  1. timeismoney Dec 9, 2013

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    Hi All,

    As some of you may know, I have been itching to get one of these Constellation from the 60's and found this one that I am excited about:
    http://www.finertimes.com/asp/watches/buyitnow.asp?Where=(Ref='rxvi0447')&Step=1

    Price aside, there are a few attributes I like about this watch but a big question I have is the medallion, what is going on there?

    Another one one that I have been checking on closely is this:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/171185847547?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

    I am not sure if I am ready for gold yet but this one makes it really enticing. In any case, would love to hear the experts weight in. Thanks!
     
  2. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Dec 9, 2013

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    is that first one a fake?
     
  3. Patrick Dixon How do these messages get here? Dec 10, 2013

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    I think the medallion is fine - it's just a reflection
     
  4. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Dec 10, 2013

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    Have a look at this
    users.tpg.com.au/mondodec/Counterfeit_Omega_Constellation_Cases.pdf
     
  5. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Dec 10, 2013

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    The first one is all original but you have to make sure the hour markers are black onyx inserts, not black painted
    The second one is ok with newer replacement crown .
     
  6. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Dec 10, 2013

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    Agreed. I can't see the serial number on the movement to see if this is early enough to be an onyx or painted dial. Dial is very nice, but so is the price. There was just an identical watch in "barn find" condition with an original box, that sold for less than half this price:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Omega-Automatic-Chronometer-Constellation-Pie-Pan-Offically-Certified-/121228831146Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

    The second watch is a put-together or Frankenwatch. The case reference is marked 167.005/6, which is correct for a non-date Constellation with the cal. 551 movement. This movement is a cal. 561 (with date). So something is wrong there.

    That being said, assuming that the dial is 18K as listed, it's quite a nice watch. I would say that given the above mentioned issues, it's very close to the high end value right now.

    Hope this helps,
    gatorcpa
     
  7. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Dec 10, 2013

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    oops, did not look at that . the dial is 18K, I am quite sure but it's a franken watch anyways.
     
  8. ulackfocus Dec 10, 2013

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    No worries Hoi. You can mess up date windows, I'll screw up AUTOMATIC. :p
     
  9. pitpro Likes the game. Dec 10, 2013

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    hoi showing he's fallible ::facepalm1::
     
  10. pitpro Likes the game. Dec 10, 2013

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    here's a 168.005 pawn shop special, and serviced.
    The Dog legs and onyx aren't my thing so
    get confirm from someone else.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/190999178495Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network
     
  11. timeismoney Dec 11, 2013

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    Thank you all for your help!
     
  12. timeismoney Dec 14, 2013

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  13. ulackfocus Dec 14, 2013

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    Well, it's obviously a replacement crown. A 20 million serial number corresponds to 1963. Didn't Omega switch to the 6 digit reference numbers then? This one has the 5 digit 14.902 so wait for more opinions.
     
  14. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Dec 14, 2013

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    I think it's OK. The reference number has "-62", which means the case was produced in 1962. Movement is indeed from 1963. Close enough for government work.

    The change from 5 to 6 digit reference codes was a running change that started as early as 1960 for some models. Since the 14902 and 168.005 were equivalent, I'm sure Omega used the remaining stock of casebacks before getting the new ones in production, since there really was no difference between the two.

    Hope this helps,
    gatorcpa
     
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  15. timeismoney Dec 19, 2013

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    Thank you all.
     
  16. Northernman Lemaniac Dec 19, 2013

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    Small detail: Do not expect the case to be 38mm without the crown like stated in the description. It will be 34mm.
     
  17. pitpro Likes the game. Dec 19, 2013

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  18. ulackfocus Dec 19, 2013

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    Yep, for a franken. ::facepalm2::
     
  19. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Dec 19, 2013

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    Does that mean Alex is off the "Unanimously Favorite Ebay Sellers List"?
     
  20. ulackfocus Dec 19, 2013

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    Good question. It's not the first dubious watch we've seen from him since we created that list.