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Lucasssssss
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My notes on the 515 endlinks:

Endlink: 515 Size:19mm ref:1172(instead of 1040) Notes: Constellation C Case

The 1172 bracelet looks as follows:

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[pic credit https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/...ce-length-excellent-condition-photos.955733/]

The above notes mean I have seen the 1172 bracelet on a C cased connie with 515 endlinks previously. The usual endlinks for these C cases are 518 (with 1040 bracelet), but 515 endlinks are correct for this model too.

JwRosenthal JwRosenthal
Well, that’s not a “bricks” in the traditional sense which is the 1040 bracelet with 517 Endlinks.
This one looks similar to the 1172 with 515 endlinks (would need better pics of the clasp stamping to read it) but this one has additional stripes on the ends to blend with the rivet caps, and pics of other 1172’s I could find don’t appear to have riveted links and endlinks don’t have the stripes. This may be a contracted (by Omega) bracelet which was not uncommon and may have been a pairing depending on country of origin. I personally love the riveted links and that bracelet is awesome!

@JwRosenthal I think is mostly correct.

I have seen talk of a 1093 bracelet (there is a thread linked above, with others on OF), which looks like the one @Gui13250 has posted, in that it is riveted. These bracelets are also 'stretch' bracelets and came on C cases.

I have not actually found the endlinks to the 1093, but I think that the 515 look correct to me (I am satisfied enough to put in my notes that the 515s are the correct endlinks for the 1093 and C-case going forward)

I would say that this is original, with a rare bracelet.
 
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JwRosenthal JwRosenthal
Oh- @Gui13250 - be sure to get an internal measurement on the bracelet at its last hole- if it’s too small, you won’t be able to use it and links are unobtainable.

and thank you for letting me know of this thread

Edit: to add a little more research, I have also found this offering on Ebay with 515 endlinks on a 1093 bracelet. I note this also appears to be french due to the Despose marking. Do any French Speakers know what the DESPOSE marking means?

I am now pretty convinced that this is an original bracelet to the c-case.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1960s-Om...links-for-Constellation-168-017-/224168062317

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And also
https://omegaforums.net/threads/anyone-know-the-bracelet-ref-here.43577/

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"DEPOSÉ", not "DESPOSÉ" and it means "trade-mark" or "registered" (as in "registered trade mark"). Hope this helps. I´m also looking for a 1040/518 or an 1172/515 for my "C" Constellation from 1970, any tips?
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Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the 1507 brink link bracelet and the 1040 BLB? I have the 1507/518 on my C-case Constellation.
 
Gui13250
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Thanks a lot @Lucasssssss for all those informations.

As a French I agreed with the translation from @mr.snakeman.

I like the watch, but I tried to explain to the seller that his price is a bit high for a C-case in need for a service. He answered that he knows a lot about horological and a bit about watch, and say that they don’t need service as long as they work, and oil does not dry...

Well, no any news since yesterday when I answered that he is wrong, oil dry and a service is needed... wait and see
 
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He answered that he knows a lot about horological and a bit about watch, and say that they don’t need service as long as they work, and oil does not dry...

The oil in his car is wet and the engine still works so I guess he doesn't need to do an oil change 🙄
 
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WhatYourWatchSay WhatYourWatchSay
Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the 1507 brink link bracelet and the 1040 BLB? I have the 1507/518 on my C-case Constellation.

Both are correct, both I have seen commonly on 518 and 18 endlinks, but have seen them on others.

Thank you @No Mercy for the pictures

1507:
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1040:
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I cant see too much of a difference, and would probably need them in hand to tell. but it looks to me that the taper of the bracelet on the 1507 is less, and the clasp is thicker (but I could be wrong).
 
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mr.snakeman mr.snakeman
"DEPOSÉ", not "DESPOSÉ" and it means "trade-mark" or "registered" (as in "registered trade mark"). Hope this helps. I´m also looking for a 1040/518 or an 1172/515 for my "C" Constellation from 1970, any tips?

They both come up often on eBay, in Steel and plated, also @No Mercy has lots of bracelets available here, he might have one. 18 endlinks are also correct as well as the 518, as are some other more obscure endlinks.
 
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Lucasssssss Lucasssssss
Both are correct, both I have seen commonly on 518 and 18 endlinks, but have seen them on others. I cant see too much of a difference, and would probably need them in hand to tell. but it looks to me that the taper of the bracelet on the 1507 is less, and the clasp is thicker (but I could be wrong).

Thanks for this info and your thoughts @Lucasssssss, very much appreciate your reply. I looked online and they did appear to be identical but I hadn't noticed the slight difference in taper and clasp size. I thought maybe it was just that one or the other was produced at a later date with a different number.
 
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How much should we expect to pay for a 1040/1507 with 518 end links?
 
Lucasssssss
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How much should we expect to pay for a 1040/1507 with 518 end links?

Depends on the condition, material and how long you want to wait for it. Last year I bought a steel one for under £50 on ebay in not bad condition. Usually they go for between 1-200 GBP
 
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Lucasssssss Lucasssssss
My notes on the 515 endlinks:

Endlink: 515 Size:19mm ref:1172(instead of 1040) Notes: Constellation C Case

The 1172 bracelet looks as follows:

11407566083_4bb03fa464_c.jpg
[pic credit https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/...ce-length-excellent-condition-photos.955733/]

The above notes mean I have seen the 1172 bracelet on a C cased connie with 515 endlinks previously. The usual endlinks for these C cases are 518 (with 1040 bracelet), but 515 endlinks are correct for this model too.



@JwRosenthal I think is mostly correct.

I have seen talk of a 1093 bracelet (there is a thread linked above, with others on OF), which looks like the one @Gui13250 has posted, in that it is riveted. These bracelets are also 'stretch' bracelets and came on C cases.

I have not actually found the endlinks to the 1093, but I think that the 515 look correct to me (I am satisfied enough to put in my notes that the 515s are the correct endlinks for the 1093 and C-case going forward)

I would say that this is original, with a rare bracelet.
@Lucasssssss reading again at it, when you says it is a stretch bracelet, do you mean it is extensible when wearing it?
 
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Gui13250 Gui13250
@Lucasssssss reading again at it, when you says it is a stretch bracelet, do you mean it is extensible when wearing it?

I haven't ever held one, but from what I read, I believe they have some 'stretch' links which can expand.
 
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Lucasssssss Lucasssssss
I haven't ever held one, but from what I read, I believe they have some 'stretch' links which can expand.
That would be cool. I love the stretch rivet links on my Zodiac bracelet- so comfortable.
 
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Watch just arrived this morning!
I can now confirm this is a stretch bracelet, REf 1093 with 515 endlinks.
Funny stuff, it has quickrealease spring bar, which seems if not original at least really old!
I’ll make a post about the watch.
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Spring link- now that is awesome! Probably will be the most comfortable bracelet you own. I’ve seen original QR spring bars- they are cool but the pin is stubby and if they rotate back can be a bear to get out. Most people here hate them. Congrats on a beauty!
 
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Thanks to @Lucasssssss I managed to snag a 1507 with 18 end links, a combination I would never had considered.

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👍

FYI the 1507 clasp width is 17mm the same as my 1040, or to be pedantic the 1040 is slightly wider at 17.2.

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The 1507 tapers quicker and smoother than the 1040 but I'd imagine different manufacturers made them to different specs.
I now just need to adjust the end links and bracelet length to fit my boney wrist, as I recall a very quick and easy procedure 😗
 
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