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Constellation 1962 - Need help and advice
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Dan S
·Looks good enough at first glance to deserve a closer look. If you want a deeper evaluation you'll need to provide good clear photos from all angles, inside the watch also if possible.
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PlainVanilla
·The dial looks original. 👍
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frpah
·oh thank you for your quick response! I will probably receive the watch tomorrow so can upload more images then 😁
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Caliber561
·We'll need clearer shots of the dial, but at first glance there don't seem to be any red flags.
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seekingseaquest
·I’m going to go with fake. Note the shape of the 6 and 9 markers - originals would be shaped like the 12 marker. This is a common mistake on the fake dials IIRC. Need more pictures of the movement and inside and outside of the caseback to confirm.
Where’s the watch located?
Where’s the watch located?
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qazwsx1
·I agree with @seekingseaquest.
Normally, we could find both versions that can be correct. Both pictures were copied from internet.
The first one with both 6 and 9 makers would be shaped like the 12 marker.
Another version with only 12 marker looks different from the others, but it should be “double” black onyx inserts.
Normally, we could find both versions that can be correct. Both pictures were copied from internet.
The first one with both 6 and 9 makers would be shaped like the 12 marker.
Another version with only 12 marker looks different from the others, but it should be “double” black onyx inserts.
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RoadRunner73
·What could be the reason for the 6 & 9 markers to be identical to the others ? I agree that they should be "double", but I just can't understand why a fake would have those single markers...
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frpah
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MtV
·A 14900 should a) not have a date window and b) not have a cal. 564.
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorFrankenwatch. Put together from pieces of other watches.
For parts only,
gatorcpa
For parts only,
gatorcpa
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frpah
·Than you for all feedback!! I guess can live with a replacement back case... If thats is the only thing thats have been messed with? The biggest issue for me is that the seller did not mention anything in the description. I have a 30 days invoice. What is a reasonable price for this watch or is it just a no go?
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MtV
·Than you for all feedback!! I guess can live with a replacement back case... If thats is the only thing thats have been messed with? The biggest issue for me is that the seller did not mention anything in the description. I have a 30 days invoice. What is a reasonable price for this watch or is it just a no go?
If it's a no-go or not is for you to decide, we can only provide info. Personally, I'd consider buying this for parts if I needed them, but the price would have to be in the triple digits. This isnt 1k+ in my book.
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RoadRunner73
·For me, it would be a no-go, because
a) it's a mix-up of everything
b) the seller apparently did not specify anything
but the decision is obviously yours as @MtV stated
a) it's a mix-up of everything
b) the seller apparently did not specify anything
but the decision is obviously yours as @MtV stated
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Gui13250
·It all depend of you.
From a collector side, it has been modified and is not a keeper, no interest in having a piece that is not the same as it was when leaving the factory back then.
From another side of view, once it’s known, the watch looks good, mouvement seems in shape, case is not over polished. The watch is nice and beautiful. 99,9% of people will see a nice vintage watch.
So knowing that, you have to decide in which side you are 😀
Of course, price has to be in accordance with the fact that some pieces have been mixed up.
From a collector side, it has been modified and is not a keeper, no interest in having a piece that is not the same as it was when leaving the factory back then.
From another side of view, once it’s known, the watch looks good, mouvement seems in shape, case is not over polished. The watch is nice and beautiful. 99,9% of people will see a nice vintage watch.
So knowing that, you have to decide in which side you are 😀
Of course, price has to be in accordance with the fact that some pieces have been mixed up.
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X350 XJR
··Vintage Omega AficionadoCan we have a shot of the outside of the case back and some shots of the bracelet including the clasp and and markings on it?
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seekingseaquest
·Can we have a shot of the outside of the case back and some shots of the bracelet including the clasp and and markings on it?
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RoadRunner73
·I’m going to go with fake. Note the shape of the 6 and 9 markers - originals would be shaped like the 12 marker. This is a common mistake on the fake dials IIRC.
?? It's not clear what you mean here : 6 and 9 markers should not be single markers ? I am a total Newbie in Connies, but can list at least 20 pieces ref. 168.005 Pan Pie on Chrono 24 which are on sale at the moment and have similar dial. They can't all be fake, so could you please clarify for me what you mean here ?
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers?? It's not clear what you mean here : 6 and 9 markers should not be single markers ? I am a total Newbie in Connies, but can list at least 20 pieces ref. 168.005 Pan Pie on Chrono 24 which are on sale at the moment and have similar dial. They can't all be fake, so could you please clarify for me what you mean here ?
The premise is that, if the 12 index is ‘shaped’, then the 9, 6 & 3 index should also be shaped.
( if there is a 3 index of course)
If the 9,6 & 3 indices are ‘simple’ then the 12 index should be a double version of the simple index.
If you have any examples that you think are exceptions to this rule it would be useful to post them.
Trawling through the 9 pages of the ‘pie pan porn’ thread I came across one similar ‘outlier’ example from 2017 which, in retrospect, has a number of red flags.
